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Old 09-13-2016 | 02:41 PM
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No my boss does.

The front end doesn't look like this does it?


The side doesn't look this this does it?

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Old 09-13-2016 | 02:44 PM
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It's close but not quite. About as real as a Raikiri GT
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Old 09-13-2016 | 03:11 PM
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Where are yall getting the tire sidewall decals?
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Old 09-13-2016 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by patorz31
No my boss does.

The front end doesn't look like this does it?


The side doesn't look this this does it?

well tell your boss...im playing ...don't do that....hey in all fairness you guys are a great sport...and if you come to my event I promise nobody will be disappointed .....

oh by the way..my all time favorite....the HPI version has been pretty good to me
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Old 09-13-2016 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostinswifty38
Where are yall getting the tire sidewall decals?
Mine are from a Tamiya body set. Unfortunately, I don't remember which one and I haven't seen them included with their latest bodies
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Old 09-13-2016 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by patorz31
No my boss does.

The front end doesn't look like this does it?


The side doesn't look this this does it?

Well, I'm gonna be honest. Yeah, its pretty da** close. grill is a different but the side profile and contours are right there.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rtypec
Mine are from a Tamiya body set. Unfortunately, I don't remember which one and I haven't seen them included with their latest bodies
Carl Seils sells them (see his thread in the painting forum) and you can get them through F1 paintlab or whatever its called now. TQ online has them.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by patorz31
Yeah but the PFM-10 isn't a McLaren MP4 or a P1. The front grill openings are wrong, the scallop on the side is wrong and the decklid is wrong. It's a made up car, shouldn't be allowed in a scale class. No offence to Dale his stuff is top notch, but this body isn't scale to any real car. The Caddy and Camaro on pretty spot on to the real race cars though.
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Exactly. An unlicensed McLaren. Some things have to be sacrificed to avoid their wrath.
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Old 09-13-2016 | 05:32 PM
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But if you allow one "Fantasy" car, why not allow others like the Tamiya Raikiri?
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Old 09-13-2016 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by patorz31
But if you allow one "Fantasy" car, why not allow others like the Tamiya Raikiri?
That body don't look very scale tho . I looks like a toy... And way overpriced (but I didn't check) most tamiya bodies are just too expensive ... Its crazy to spend $40 for a body that's not going to last but a few race days
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Old 09-13-2016 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by daleepp
Metalsoft;

Wow...your first line was really flattering. You are assuming many things about Protoform's processes and capabilities that are a gross over-estimation. I can only wish we had all those resources...LOL.

Tamiya is an amazing company who's globally market is quite different that ours. They cater to primarily to enthusiasts and offer every part of the hobbyist "package" and at every price range. Tamiya's bodies reflect their marketing strategy.

However we at Protoform cater primerily to racers. Now maybe I'm a bit confused.....you guys do race these USGT cars don't you?

The Camaro and Cadillac bodies in question follow the letter of the USGT rules as written and also follow the design details and the "spirit" of the real 1:1 cars they replicate - otherwise General Motors would not approve them for licensing. The shapes/dimension are altered only to fit the common RC chassis width and wheelbase.

Now... the Tamilya bodies (the ones with "soul") are produced completely in a computer using keyboards and mouse-strokes. The actual molds are cut by some pretty amazing CNC machines. (envious here) Human hands are not a part of the process.

The Protoform molds since 1992 are made by me.... a human being. (probably debatable ) I spend long days in a one-man shop using hand tools. A typical USGT or touring sedan mold will take between 5 and 6 weeks to complete - but the licensing with it's inevitable delays will drag out the process much longer. There are 4 or 5 approval stages (hoops) we must go through. There's no shortage of passion "built in" to every Protoform mold....because I'm a auto racing fanatic and have been since I first learned to turn the pages of a car magazine.

I hope they never change to USGT rules to be based on the subjective opinions of a few. That would look waaaaay too much like today's political scene in the USA.

Dale Epp - Protoform Race Bodies.

BTW: the many pictures just posted in the last day show some AMAZINGLY beautiful cars! GREAT WORK by all you guys!
Don't worry, Dale, we all DO very much appreciate all you do for RC racing, I think it's just that when mixing the race bred & the more true to scale stuff in the same class you'll always get those arguments from time to time(& right now, I think the balance of bodies is working very well, lots to interest all kinds of car lovers). Please, keep up the GREAT work! Oh, & I've also been thinking, I really loved what you guys did with your little aero performance matrix for TC bodies, & it made me wonder if you could do something like that for the USGT & 1/12 scale bodies too? It'd definitely be helpful in choosing which body to try for certain conditions & track configurations(just like it helps for TC's).....
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Old 09-14-2016 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MrLesac
since we are all posting GT paint schemes... here are a few more of mine from the past.












out of the bodies Ive posted above Ive found the Tamiya RX7 to be the best handling out of the box. Also I dont currently have a pic, but I did a tamiya SC430 that handled awesome.
the 787b livery is amazing. Did you use a genuine decal sheet for that?

Have you ever tried the nsx gt concept... I currently own a 32 skyline body but may consider the nsx if GT takes off at my track
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Old 09-14-2016 | 04:44 AM
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Dale, Have you looked into any of the table-top CNC machines, that are now available, to produce body molds? They might be worth looking into.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 05:03 AM
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before i paint it up, will i be able to use this body in usgt racing ?
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Old 09-14-2016 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dominick i.
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before i paint it up, will i be able to use this body in usgt racing ?
Not on a national level but possibly local
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