USGT
#5299
oh by the way..my all time favorite....the HPI version has been pretty good to me
#5300
#5301
#5302
Carl Seils sells them (see his thread in the painting forum) and you can get them through F1 paintlab or whatever its called now. TQ online has them.
#5303
Thread Starter
Joined: Aug 2001
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From: Macho Business Donkey Wrestler
Yeah but the PFM-10 isn't a McLaren MP4 or a P1. The front grill openings are wrong, the scallop on the side is wrong and the decklid is wrong. It's a made up car, shouldn't be allowed in a scale class. No offence to Dale his stuff is top notch, but this body isn't scale to any real car. The Caddy and Camaro on pretty spot on to the real race cars though.
#5305
That body don't look very scale tho . I looks like a toy... And way overpriced (but I didn't check) most tamiya bodies are just too expensive ... Its crazy to spend $40 for a body that's not going to last but a few race days
#5306
Metalsoft;
Wow...your first line was really flattering. You are assuming many things about Protoform's processes and capabilities that are a gross over-estimation. I can only wish we had all those resources...LOL.
Tamiya is an amazing company who's globally market is quite different that ours. They cater to primarily to enthusiasts and offer every part of the hobbyist "package" and at every price range. Tamiya's bodies reflect their marketing strategy.
However we at Protoform cater primerily to racers. Now maybe I'm a bit confused.....you guys do race these USGT cars don't you?
The Camaro and Cadillac bodies in question follow the letter of the USGT rules as written and also follow the design details and the "spirit" of the real 1:1 cars they replicate - otherwise General Motors would not approve them for licensing. The shapes/dimension are altered only to fit the common RC chassis width and wheelbase.
Now... the Tamilya bodies (the ones with "soul") are produced completely in a computer using keyboards and mouse-strokes. The actual molds are cut by some pretty amazing CNC machines. (envious here) Human hands are not a part of the process.
The Protoform molds since 1992 are made by me.... a human being. (probably debatable
) I spend long days in a one-man shop using hand tools. A typical USGT or touring sedan mold will take between 5 and 6 weeks to complete - but the licensing with it's inevitable delays will drag out the process much longer. There are 4 or 5 approval stages (hoops) we must go through. There's no shortage of passion "built in" to every Protoform mold....because I'm a auto racing fanatic and have been since I first learned to turn the pages of a car magazine.
I hope they never change to USGT rules to be based on the subjective opinions of a few. That would look waaaaay too much like today's political scene in the USA.
Dale Epp - Protoform Race Bodies.
BTW: the many pictures just posted in the last day show some AMAZINGLY beautiful cars! GREAT WORK by all you guys!
Wow...your first line was really flattering. You are assuming many things about Protoform's processes and capabilities that are a gross over-estimation. I can only wish we had all those resources...LOL.
Tamiya is an amazing company who's globally market is quite different that ours. They cater to primarily to enthusiasts and offer every part of the hobbyist "package" and at every price range. Tamiya's bodies reflect their marketing strategy.
However we at Protoform cater primerily to racers. Now maybe I'm a bit confused.....you guys do race these USGT cars don't you?
The Camaro and Cadillac bodies in question follow the letter of the USGT rules as written and also follow the design details and the "spirit" of the real 1:1 cars they replicate - otherwise General Motors would not approve them for licensing. The shapes/dimension are altered only to fit the common RC chassis width and wheelbase.
Now... the Tamilya bodies (the ones with "soul") are produced completely in a computer using keyboards and mouse-strokes. The actual molds are cut by some pretty amazing CNC machines. (envious here) Human hands are not a part of the process.
The Protoform molds since 1992 are made by me.... a human being. (probably debatable
) I spend long days in a one-man shop using hand tools. A typical USGT or touring sedan mold will take between 5 and 6 weeks to complete - but the licensing with it's inevitable delays will drag out the process much longer. There are 4 or 5 approval stages (hoops) we must go through. There's no shortage of passion "built in" to every Protoform mold....because I'm a auto racing fanatic and have been since I first learned to turn the pages of a car magazine. I hope they never change to USGT rules to be based on the subjective opinions of a few. That would look waaaaay too much like today's political scene in the USA.
Dale Epp - Protoform Race Bodies.
BTW: the many pictures just posted in the last day show some AMAZINGLY beautiful cars! GREAT WORK by all you guys!
#5307
Have you ever tried the nsx gt concept... I currently own a 32 skyline body but may consider the nsx if GT takes off at my track
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