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09-04-2016 | 04:56 AM
#5146
Tech Addict
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 509
From: London, United Kingdom
A club can make local decisions, of course, but for official USGT events, no.
If you like those, you might like the Colt 911 GT1 (M1136)?
09-04-2016 | 07:37 AM
#5148
Tech Regular
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 380
From: flagstaff, az
Quote from posted rules....
"Your Local track can always make adjustments to this rule...Please use the following if you
want deviate from the Body list for local racing
Any 190mm or 200mm body.
Body can be anybody that is NOT or HAS NOT BEEN on the ROAR T2 body list.
FWD encouraged to use FWD bodies.
Can AM or IMSA style bodies, similar to 1/12 or 1/8 bodies using an integrated wing are illegal. EX:
Porsche 962 style bodies or LeMans P1. Japanese GT OK German DTM OK
NO Trucks vans minivans school buses garbage trucks, ultility vehicles, moon landers, zambonis,golf
carts, quads, etc allowed.
No fantasy or unproduced concept vehicles. If it’s not a car it’s not legal.
Track director or race promoter has the final say on legality of discontinued unlisted bodies."
"Your Local track can always make adjustments to this rule...Please use the following if you
want deviate from the Body list for local racing
Any 190mm or 200mm body.
Body can be anybody that is NOT or HAS NOT BEEN on the ROAR T2 body list.
FWD encouraged to use FWD bodies.
Can AM or IMSA style bodies, similar to 1/12 or 1/8 bodies using an integrated wing are illegal. EX:
Porsche 962 style bodies or LeMans P1. Japanese GT OK German DTM OK
NO Trucks vans minivans school buses garbage trucks, ultility vehicles, moon landers, zambonis,golf
carts, quads, etc allowed.
No fantasy or unproduced concept vehicles. If it’s not a car it’s not legal.
Track director or race promoter has the final say on legality of discontinued unlisted bodies."
09-04-2016 | 06:45 PM
#5149
Quote from posted rules....
"Your Local track can always make adjustments to this rule...Please use the following if you
want deviate from the Body list for local racing
Any 190mm or 200mm body.
Body can be anybody that is NOT or HAS NOT BEEN on the ROAR T2 body list.
FWD encouraged to use FWD bodies.
Can AM or IMSA style bodies, similar to 1/12 or 1/8 bodies using an integrated wing are illegal. EX:
Porsche 962 style bodies or LeMans P1. Japanese GT OK German DTM OK
NO Trucks vans minivans school buses garbage trucks, ultility vehicles, moon landers, zambonis,golf
carts, quads, etc allowed.
No fantasy or unproduced concept vehicles. If it’s not a car it’s not legal.
Track director or race promoter has the final say on legality of discontinued unlisted bodies."
"Your Local track can always make adjustments to this rule...Please use the following if you
want deviate from the Body list for local racing
Any 190mm or 200mm body.
Body can be anybody that is NOT or HAS NOT BEEN on the ROAR T2 body list.
FWD encouraged to use FWD bodies.
Can AM or IMSA style bodies, similar to 1/12 or 1/8 bodies using an integrated wing are illegal. EX:
Porsche 962 style bodies or LeMans P1. Japanese GT OK German DTM OK
NO Trucks vans minivans school buses garbage trucks, ultility vehicles, moon landers, zambonis,golf
carts, quads, etc allowed.
No fantasy or unproduced concept vehicles. If it’s not a car it’s not legal.
Track director or race promoter has the final say on legality of discontinued unlisted bodies."
Edit: I see it says 'no unproduced concept vehicles', but the body I have is of the Corvette Daytona Prototype. In all reality, it's just a race version of the Corvette C6 which is mass produced and not a concept. If it's banned for that reason, then shouldn't bodies like the Cadillac ATS.V and Camaro ZR/1 made by protoform also be illegal since they are not mass produced either? Besides, the Daytona Prototype bodies provide no aero advantages over the other legal bodies. I just think it's rather silly to give the Corvette Daytona body the banhammer.
Last edited by Einsman; 09-04-2016 at 09:38 PM.
09-05-2016 | 01:02 PM
#5154
Tech Regular
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 380
From: flagstaff, az
The real problem with the USGT body rules is the term "GT". Nobody has given an exact definition of "GT"....mainly because there IS NO standard definition of "GT". It's silly to go by the terminology that has been given to full size cars, since they can make up what ever they want, certainly with no regard to RC classifications.
So, therefore we have a lot of confusion as to the approval of RC bodies for USGT, not only for the racers, but for manufacturers that would like to support the class producing bodies. I certainly have no idea what is acceptable for the class. Obviously I was wrong before. Again, I'm not knocking the USGT class, I just have no clue what the basis is for the bodies.
So, therefore we have a lot of confusion as to the approval of RC bodies for USGT, not only for the racers, but for manufacturers that would like to support the class producing bodies. I certainly have no idea what is acceptable for the class. Obviously I was wrong before. Again, I'm not knocking the USGT class, I just have no clue what the basis is for the bodies.
09-05-2016 | 02:19 PM
#5155
The real problem with the USGT body rules is the term "GT". Nobody has given an exact definition of "GT"....mainly because there IS NO standard definition of "GT". It's silly to go by the terminology that has been given to full size cars, since they can make up what ever they want, certainly with no regard to RC classifications.
So, therefore we have a lot of confusion as to the approval of RC bodies for USGT, not only for the racers, but for manufacturers that would like to support the class producing bodies. I certainly have no idea what is acceptable for the class. Obviously I was wrong before. Again, I'm not knocking the USGT class, I just have no clue what the basis is for the bodies.
So, therefore we have a lot of confusion as to the approval of RC bodies for USGT, not only for the racers, but for manufacturers that would like to support the class producing bodies. I certainly have no idea what is acceptable for the class. Obviously I was wrong before. Again, I'm not knocking the USGT class, I just have no clue what the basis is for the bodies.
According to dictionary.com this is the definition:"Also called GT car, grand touring car, grand touring. Automotive.
an automobile in the style of a coupe, usually seating two but occasionally four, and designed for comfort and high speed. a high-speed, two-door model of a four-door sedan.
According to the Collins English Dictionary:gran turismo: a high-performance luxury sports car with a hard fixed roof, designed for covering long distances
If you look into real racing of full size "GT" cars , there various levels of "GT" racing. I understand the problem of coming up with a list of bodies. Many contributors to this forum understand the variety classes in real "GT" racing. I do not. There is GTE, GT2, GT3, and GT4. Within the GT4 class there is a Supersport category for some unusual roadsters. I love the Donkervoort D8GT. You have to love the name.
Why not have a category for bodies like the McAllister prototypes which resemble real GT cars like the McClaren and others?
09-05-2016 | 02:55 PM
#5157
I can't buy GT versions of the ATS.V or ZR/1 at my local dealership either. You need to buy GT cars via the manufacturer racing program, same as Daytona Prototypes
09-05-2016 | 04:15 PM
#5158
Tech Adept
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 188
From: Woodridge, IL
The GT means GT, GTD and GT3 style bodies. If you've ever watched a GT racing series in your life you can figure it out.
Yes you might not be able to buy an ATS.V GT car from the dealer but you can buy the car and bring it to a race shop and have it spec'd out for racing to the series rules. You can purchase a 911 GT3, McLaren GT3, 911 GT cup car and many many other brands from the manufacturer.
Yes you might not be able to buy an ATS.V GT car from the dealer but you can buy the car and bring it to a race shop and have it spec'd out for racing to the series rules. You can purchase a 911 GT3, McLaren GT3, 911 GT cup car and many many other brands from the manufacturer.
09-05-2016 | 06:50 PM
#5160
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,823
From: SF Bay Area
The real problem with the USGT body rules is the term "GT". Nobody has given an exact definition of "GT"....mainly because there IS NO standard definition of "GT". It's silly to go by the terminology that has been given to full size cars, since they can make up what ever they want, certainly with no regard to RC classifications.
So, therefore we have a lot of confusion as to the approval of RC bodies for USGT, not only for the racers, but for manufacturers that would like to support the class producing bodies. I certainly have no idea what is acceptable for the class. Obviously I was wrong before. Again, I'm not knocking the USGT class, I just have no clue what the basis is for the bodies.
So, therefore we have a lot of confusion as to the approval of RC bodies for USGT, not only for the racers, but for manufacturers that would like to support the class producing bodies. I certainly have no idea what is acceptable for the class. Obviously I was wrong before. Again, I'm not knocking the USGT class, I just have no clue what the basis is for the bodies.
I think USGT is a great class. You have a tire rule with good reasonably priced tires. The motor rule is good. You can find good motors from a low price to higher price. If you are R/C cars you familiar with the esc rule. I agree with flying. The body choices are confusing.
According to dictionary.com this is the definition:"Also called GT car, grand touring car, grand touring. Automotive.
an automobile in the style of a coupe, usually seating two but occasionally four, and designed for comfort and high speed. a high-speed, two-door model of a four-door sedan.
According to the Collins English Dictionary:gran turismo: a high-performance luxury sports car with a hard fixed roof, designed for covering long distances
If you look into real racing of full size "GT" cars , there various levels of "GT" racing. I understand the problem of coming up with a list of bodies. Many contributors to this forum understand the variety classes in real "GT" racing. I do not. There is GTE, GT2, GT3, and GT4. Within the GT4 class there is a Supersport category for some unusual roadsters. I love the Donkervoort D8GT. You have to love the name.
Why not have a category for bodies like the McAllister prototypes which resemble real GT cars like the McClaren and others?
According to dictionary.com this is the definition:"Also called GT car, grand touring car, grand touring. Automotive.
an automobile in the style of a coupe, usually seating two but occasionally four, and designed for comfort and high speed. a high-speed, two-door model of a four-door sedan.
According to the Collins English Dictionary:gran turismo: a high-performance luxury sports car with a hard fixed roof, designed for covering long distances
If you look into real racing of full size "GT" cars , there various levels of "GT" racing. I understand the problem of coming up with a list of bodies. Many contributors to this forum understand the variety classes in real "GT" racing. I do not. There is GTE, GT2, GT3, and GT4. Within the GT4 class there is a Supersport category for some unusual roadsters. I love the Donkervoort D8GT. You have to love the name.
Why not have a category for bodies like the McAllister prototypes which resemble real GT cars like the McClaren and others?
The GT means GT, GTD and GT3 style bodies. If you've ever watched a GT racing series in your life you can figure it out.
Yes you might not be able to buy an ATS.V GT car from the dealer but you can buy the car and bring it to a race shop and have it spec'd out for racing to the series rules. You can purchase a 911 GT3, McLaren GT3, 911 GT cup car and many many other brands from the manufacturer.
Yes you might not be able to buy an ATS.V GT car from the dealer but you can buy the car and bring it to a race shop and have it spec'd out for racing to the series rules. You can purchase a 911 GT3, McLaren GT3, 911 GT cup car and many many other brands from the manufacturer.
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