USGT
#5311
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,237
From: Nashville, TN
Mine also came from my Tamiya body set.
TQ racing sells some though.
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ...asp?p_id=11242
TQ racing sells some though.
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ...asp?p_id=11242
#5312
Yeah but the PFM-10 isn't a McLaren MP4 or a P1. The front grill openings are wrong, the scallop on the side is wrong and the decklid is wrong. It's a made up car, shouldn't be allowed in a scale class. No offense to Dale his stuff is top notch, but this body isn't scale to any real car. The Caddy and Camaro on pretty spot on to the real race cars though.
I do like the looks of the PFM-10, but it's nowhere near as scale as the PFM-12 or that beautiful new Ford GT.
Really, Dale great job!!

I think we can agree that if the scale aspect is greatly compromised for the sake of fit/performance/etc, then a different car should be modeled.
I personally would like to see more diversity in the GT classes. I.E. allow varying wheelbases (within reason, this is #1 in destroying the scale looks of a car IMHO). Allow front and rear engine chassis as well as the standard rear-mid configuration. Tamiya does this with some of their offerings, it's not hard and would bring some fun to the series.



#5313
I dont race USGT class at my local track, but really like how realistic these Tamiya bodies looks and the variety they offer. A lot of the locals race these bodies now and can keep up with people running modified 4.5T and TC bodies.
The Lexus RCF IMO looks really nice but the bulky design doesnt translate well on track

The Nissan R390 is one of the best handling GT body aside from the NSX. Most the locals have switched to the R390 as they are getting bored with the NSX and want to switch it up

My latest body which I have yet to try out and hope it doesnt disappoint.
The Lexus RCF IMO looks really nice but the bulky design doesnt translate well on track
The Nissan R390 is one of the best handling GT body aside from the NSX. Most the locals have switched to the R390 as they are getting bored with the NSX and want to switch it up
My latest body which I have yet to try out and hope it doesnt disappoint.
#5316
Nissan's rarest of the rare. Built by TWR (based on the XJR-15 IIRC). They did make a road legal version. I stress A... one was sold to a collector the other Nissan retains.I think the only reason this GT1 era shell survived is a nice licensing agreement. The Mercedes and Porsche GT1s are all but gone and never re-released.
#5317
Here's the deal. There have been instances where car companies sue simply because a 1/10 scale body looks similar to a real car. Dale Epp told us once that he received a nasty letter from Visteon simply because he used a sticker on one of his bodies. Some companies can get away with it but every now and then a scale body catches the eye of a car manufacturer and thus the legal issues begin. So, if you want to pay premium prices for licenced bodies, use Tamiya. If you want one that looks pretty close, use Protoform for half the price. Up to you but you're nitpicking certain features just because they dont look EXACTLY like the McLaren.
Yeah but the PFM-10 isn't a McLaren MP4 or a P1. The front grill openings are wrong, the scallop on the side is wrong and the decklid is wrong. It's a made up car, shouldn't be allowed in a scale class. No offence to Dale his stuff is top notch, but this body isn't scale to any real car. The Caddy and Camaro on pretty spot on to the real race cars though.
#5318
I dont race USGT class at my local track, but really like how realistic these Tamiya bodies looks and the variety they offer. A lot of the locals race these bodies now and can keep up with people running modified 4.5T and TC bodies.
The Lexus RCF IMO looks really nice but the bulky design doesnt translate well on track

The Nissan R390 is one of the best handling GT body aside from the NSX. Most the locals have switched to the R390 as they are getting bored with the NSX and want to switch it up

My latest body which I have yet to try out and hope it doesnt disappoint.

The Lexus RCF IMO looks really nice but the bulky design doesnt translate well on track
The Nissan R390 is one of the best handling GT body aside from the NSX. Most the locals have switched to the R390 as they are getting bored with the NSX and want to switch it up
My latest body which I have yet to try out and hope it doesnt disappoint.
Did you find the scale wings didn't provide enough down force? I also added a TC wing to my 32 skyline
#5319
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Joined: May 2012
Posts: 299
From: Redlands, CA
#5322
If you designed something and someone copied your design without asking for you permission, you too would send a nasty letter.
Majority of us are well aware the licensing these bodies can be expensive. Ferrari charges a far greater premium than Chevrolet. That's why Tamiyas body sets vary in price. They also vary in price because some of the body sets include sponsor decals which also care licensing fees.
Many also are not aware that Tamiya sells the bodies by themselves, you need to look it up by its 7 digit part number.
Protofom Sophia GT has a likeness to an Alfa Romeo 8C and is a legal body for 200mm pan car. No one in 200mm pan car is going to complain that it's not close enough to an 8C, in fact they probably like it because it looks different than the usual door stop body.
That's 200 mm pan car this is USGT.
When this class was started over 8 years ago, another attraction was the large section of bodies to choose from. Because it's scale bodies of real manufacturers cars there is more to choose from than any other RC class.
I have not heard anyone ever complian that the prices of the body sets by Tamiya or HPI are too expensive and they're done with the class.
The discussion at hand is should we allow bodies that resemble a GT / or are not licensed be aloud. At present some of them are aloud.
It's not nitpicking when it's what the class is about. if Sorex were to make a tyre that has the identical pattern as the ride, would it still be aloud? Perhaps or perhaps not but a discussion would have to be had.
Majority of us are well aware the licensing these bodies can be expensive. Ferrari charges a far greater premium than Chevrolet. That's why Tamiyas body sets vary in price. They also vary in price because some of the body sets include sponsor decals which also care licensing fees.
Many also are not aware that Tamiya sells the bodies by themselves, you need to look it up by its 7 digit part number.
Protofom Sophia GT has a likeness to an Alfa Romeo 8C and is a legal body for 200mm pan car. No one in 200mm pan car is going to complain that it's not close enough to an 8C, in fact they probably like it because it looks different than the usual door stop body.
That's 200 mm pan car this is USGT.
When this class was started over 8 years ago, another attraction was the large section of bodies to choose from. Because it's scale bodies of real manufacturers cars there is more to choose from than any other RC class.
I have not heard anyone ever complian that the prices of the body sets by Tamiya or HPI are too expensive and they're done with the class.
The discussion at hand is should we allow bodies that resemble a GT / or are not licensed be aloud. At present some of them are aloud.
It's not nitpicking when it's what the class is about. if Sorex were to make a tyre that has the identical pattern as the ride, would it still be aloud? Perhaps or perhaps not but a discussion would have to be had.
#5323
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,823
From: SF Bay Area
What wing is on the Nissan r390?
I dont race USGT class at my local track, but really like how realistic these Tamiya bodies looks and the variety they offer. A lot of the locals race these bodies now and can keep up with people running modified 4.5T and TC bodies.
The Lexus RCF IMO looks really nice but the bulky design doesnt translate well on track

The Nissan R390 is one of the best handling GT body aside from the NSX. Most the locals have switched to the R390 as they are getting bored with the NSX and want to switch it up

My latest body which I have yet to try out and hope it doesnt disappoint.

The Lexus RCF IMO looks really nice but the bulky design doesnt translate well on track
The Nissan R390 is one of the best handling GT body aside from the NSX. Most the locals have switched to the R390 as they are getting bored with the NSX and want to switch it up
My latest body which I have yet to try out and hope it doesnt disappoint.
#5325

I'd like to see a pic of that!
Nissan's rarest of the rare. Built by TWR (based on the XJR-15 IIRC). They did make a road legal version. I stress A... one was sold to a collector the other Nissan retains.
I think the only reason this GT1 era shell survived is a nice licensing agreement. The Mercedes and Porsche GT1s are all but gone and never re-released.
Nissan's rarest of the rare. Built by TWR (based on the XJR-15 IIRC). They did make a road legal version. I stress A... one was sold to a collector the other Nissan retains.I think the only reason this GT1 era shell survived is a nice licensing agreement. The Mercedes and Porsche GT1s are all but gone and never re-released.
keen to hear how you go with the nsx gt concept as I heard that cars like the Lexus with the front splitter don't go too well... In fact I think I read by removing it, it helped with steering
Did you find the scale wings didn't provide enough down force? I also added a TC wing to my 32 skyline
Did you find the scale wings didn't provide enough down force? I also added a TC wing to my 32 skyline
Yeah, the scaled wing doesnt really do much, also its not as durable as the TC wing counter parts. They bend and break pretty easily.
Its from a local company called Leespeed, but any TC wing with the optional Tamiya wing mount would work just fine. Check with your local track rules first before using it tho, Im not sure if its legal or not.





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