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Old 09-14-2016 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Boostinswifty38
Where are yall getting the tire sidewall decals?
Mine also came from my Tamiya body set.

TQ racing sells some though.

http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ...asp?p_id=11242
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Old 09-14-2016 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by patorz31
Yeah but the PFM-10 isn't a McLaren MP4 or a P1. The front grill openings are wrong, the scallop on the side is wrong and the decklid is wrong. It's a made up car, shouldn't be allowed in a scale class. No offense to Dale his stuff is top notch, but this body isn't scale to any real car. The Caddy and Camaro on pretty spot on to the real race cars though.
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I do like the looks of the PFM-10, but it's nowhere near as scale as the PFM-12 or that beautiful new Ford GT.

Really, Dale great job!!

I think we can agree that if the scale aspect is greatly compromised for the sake of fit/performance/etc, then a different car should be modeled.

I personally would like to see more diversity in the GT classes. I.E. allow varying wheelbases (within reason, this is #1 in destroying the scale looks of a car IMHO). Allow front and rear engine chassis as well as the standard rear-mid configuration. Tamiya does this with some of their offerings, it's not hard and would bring some fun to the series.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 09:11 AM
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I dont race USGT class at my local track, but really like how realistic these Tamiya bodies looks and the variety they offer. A lot of the locals race these bodies now and can keep up with people running modified 4.5T and TC bodies.

The Lexus RCF IMO looks really nice but the bulky design doesnt translate well on track


The Nissan R390 is one of the best handling GT body aside from the NSX. Most the locals have switched to the R390 as they are getting bored with the NSX and want to switch it up


My latest body which I have yet to try out and hope it doesnt disappoint.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 09:39 AM
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Is the Nissan R390 a legal body? I ask because I didn't see it on the body list. I have a couple that the local hobby store had on sale. $20 each.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 10:53 AM
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I thought that it was as well, but just checked the list and didn't see it.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by disaster999
The Nissan R390 is one of the best handling GT body aside from the NSX. Most the locals have switched to the R390 as they are getting bored with the NSX and want to switch it up
I'd like to see a pic of that! Nissan's rarest of the rare. Built by TWR (based on the XJR-15 IIRC). They did make a road legal version. I stress A... one was sold to a collector the other Nissan retains.

I think the only reason this GT1 era shell survived is a nice licensing agreement. The Mercedes and Porsche GT1s are all but gone and never re-released.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 12:48 PM
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Here's the deal. There have been instances where car companies sue simply because a 1/10 scale body looks similar to a real car. Dale Epp told us once that he received a nasty letter from Visteon simply because he used a sticker on one of his bodies. Some companies can get away with it but every now and then a scale body catches the eye of a car manufacturer and thus the legal issues begin. So, if you want to pay premium prices for licenced bodies, use Tamiya. If you want one that looks pretty close, use Protoform for half the price. Up to you but you're nitpicking certain features just because they dont look EXACTLY like the McLaren.
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Yeah but the PFM-10 isn't a McLaren MP4 or a P1. The front grill openings are wrong, the scallop on the side is wrong and the decklid is wrong. It's a made up car, shouldn't be allowed in a scale class. No offence to Dale his stuff is top notch, but this body isn't scale to any real car. The Caddy and Camaro on pretty spot on to the real race cars though.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by disaster999
I dont race USGT class at my local track, but really like how realistic these Tamiya bodies looks and the variety they offer. A lot of the locals race these bodies now and can keep up with people running modified 4.5T and TC bodies.

The Lexus RCF IMO looks really nice but the bulky design doesnt translate well on track


The Nissan R390 is one of the best handling GT body aside from the NSX. Most the locals have switched to the R390 as they are getting bored with the NSX and want to switch it up


My latest body which I have yet to try out and hope it doesnt disappoint.
keen to hear how you go with the nsx gt concept as I heard that cars like the Lexus with the front splitter don't go too well... In fact I think I read by removing it, it helped with steering

Did you find the scale wings didn't provide enough down force? I also added a TC wing to my 32 skyline
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Old 09-14-2016 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Grizzbob
I really loved what you guys did with your little aero performance matrix for TC bodies, & it made me wonder if you could do something like that for the USGT & 1/12 scale bodies too?

You can find those here.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 02:11 PM
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Questions?? What scale car would this be?

My Raikiri GT By Tamiya, What scale car is this?







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Old 09-14-2016 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ivan Dickson
My Raikiri GT By Tamiya, What scale car is this?







It's about as close to a real car as the PFM-10.....
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Old 09-14-2016 | 02:37 PM
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If you designed something and someone copied your design without asking for you permission, you too would send a nasty letter.

Majority of us are well aware the licensing these bodies can be expensive. Ferrari charges a far greater premium than Chevrolet. That's why Tamiyas body sets vary in price. They also vary in price because some of the body sets include sponsor decals which also care licensing fees.
Many also are not aware that Tamiya sells the bodies by themselves, you need to look it up by its 7 digit part number.

Protofom Sophia GT has a likeness to an Alfa Romeo 8C and is a legal body for 200mm pan car. No one in 200mm pan car is going to complain that it's not close enough to an 8C, in fact they probably like it because it looks different than the usual door stop body.

That's 200 mm pan car this is USGT.

When this class was started over 8 years ago, another attraction was the large section of bodies to choose from. Because it's scale bodies of real manufacturers cars there is more to choose from than any other RC class.

I have not heard anyone ever complian that the prices of the body sets by Tamiya or HPI are too expensive and they're done with the class.

The discussion at hand is should we allow bodies that resemble a GT / or are not licensed be aloud. At present some of them are aloud.

It's not nitpicking when it's what the class is about. if Sorex were to make a tyre that has the identical pattern as the ride, would it still be aloud? Perhaps or perhaps not but a discussion would have to be had.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 03:10 PM
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What wing is on the Nissan r390?
Originally Posted by disaster999
I dont race USGT class at my local track, but really like how realistic these Tamiya bodies looks and the variety they offer. A lot of the locals race these bodies now and can keep up with people running modified 4.5T and TC bodies.

The Lexus RCF IMO looks really nice but the bulky design doesnt translate well on track


The Nissan R390 is one of the best handling GT body aside from the NSX. Most the locals have switched to the R390 as they are getting bored with the NSX and want to switch it up


My latest body which I have yet to try out and hope it doesnt disappoint.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by patorz31
It's about as close to a real car as the PFM-10.....
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Old 09-14-2016 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Scargoes
Is the Nissan R390 a legal body? I ask because I didn't see it on the body list. I have a couple that the local hobby store had on sale. $20 each.
I have no idea about the legality of the R390 since like I said, we dont have USGT rules here. I just posted here just to share my bodies

Originally Posted by firefoxussr
I'd like to see a pic of that! Nissan's rarest of the rare. Built by TWR (based on the XJR-15 IIRC). They did make a road legal version. I stress A... one was sold to a collector the other Nissan retains.

I think the only reason this GT1 era shell survived is a nice licensing agreement. The Mercedes and Porsche GT1s are all but gone and never re-released.
I'll take a picture next time when the gang gather up in all R390s

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keen to hear how you go with the nsx gt concept as I heard that cars like the Lexus with the front splitter don't go too well... In fact I think I read by removing it, it helped with steering

Did you find the scale wings didn't provide enough down force? I also added a TC wing to my 32 skyline
I had the splitter on the Lexus but over time, riding it over curbs and scraping on the asphalt, the splitter wore through and eventually broke off. I didnt notice any difference in handling. Also, when you get into and crash, the front splitter is the first to bend and fold up making it pretty useless in any aero situation anyways

Yeah, the scaled wing doesnt really do much, also its not as durable as the TC wing counter parts. They bend and break pretty easily.

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What wing is on the Nissan r390?
Its from a local company called Leespeed, but any TC wing with the optional Tamiya wing mount would work just fine. Check with your local track rules first before using it tho, Im not sure if its legal or not.
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