The Worlds (Italy 2006) and Additives
 

Hi All

Hope to meet some of you guys at the Worlds in July.

In the UK we are tring to work out what additives will be allowed.
I find nothing mentioned in the rules.

In the UK we have a bann on Paragon type stuff (no wintergeen products or "smelly" additives are allowed). We all use products like CS Grip or Jack The Gripper. We (UK) hope this will be the case at the worlds becuase we have all got used to driving with clear heads (hmm apart from the party goers!)

I would be interested to hear from US racers comming to the worlds. What is your expectation? What have you been told?

This post is about the 2006 Worlds. I am not interested in the general Paragon vs Non-Paragon debate. We have moved on from that and there are other places I see where this can be discussed.

So... what do we know about the additive rules for the 2006 1/12th scale world championships?

Cheers

Mark

the new tweak springs are awesome. They clip on much more easily, and are much smoother. Worth the miniscule amount of money!

I would agree that they are all decent cars, however, the CRC cars are far more complete. I switched from an L3 to a Speedmerchant to a Knife and I am much happier. You get racing tires, all the cool red stuff, titanium front axles and the lubes and tools are in the kit, there is really no comparison to the former cars I have had. I think I had to scrounge around for tie-rods with the Rev car, very disappointing. Plus, the front end that is contemporary, not the un-adjustable older product Associated gave up on.

Regarding the hot car... seems like a sea of red cars at most races.

I got one of the first run Rev.4 kits. It was very complete to me. I'd rather choose what tires that work better at my local track. As far as tools, I wind up by throwing away the allen keys that the manufacturer's provide anyway, and didn't mind. Nice part is that the Speed Merchant comes partially assembled. It includes steering linkage. As for it not coming with a servo saver, those are servo specific anyway. My 1/12th is very much in stock form and barely makes weight at all sanctioned events. As for the old skool front suspension, it is flat out the easiest to tune front suspension, and it wins races. What more is there to say about it. If you don't like the old skool suspension, the hole patterns are interchangeable with the newer style suspension. I love mine.

7 out of 10 cars in the stock A main at the carpet nats were Rev4s. Now thats a sea of...er...Rev4s! :nod:

I think people may be singing a different tune if Jeff wouldn't have been taken out in the 3rd main. Both cars are competitive and either can win in the hands of the right driver. I have found it easier to get parts support for CRC cars. It will be intresting to see what these 2 can push each other to develop on their cars. Next carpet race is Vegas and will there be a new player in the stock ranks? :sneaky:

Like I said, all the cars mentioned above are pretty decent.

Yes.. 7 of 10 at the Cali race is impressive.Of course a CRC was T.Q. And there were less than 30 entries. A mere pond.

Now lets look at some real competitive races..

Cleveland
87 stock entries. red cars 7 of 10 plus T.Q. and 1,2,3,4
44 masters entries - 6 of 10, T.Q. 1 + 2
45 19 Turn entries 5 of 10 with T.Q+3rd.

Snowbirds - 57 stock entries 5 of 10 with T.Q. + win.

hhhhmmm now that's much more like a sea of CRC red! :nod:

(I love these "my car is better than your car" wars!) :cool:

Those are great numbers.

so who won mod at Cleveland? :)

So who won mod everywhere else? :)

Black Widow :D

Honestly guys, the driver is the most important, hell, if peter robinson, jeff dayger...etc were driving an L4 or corally or black widow they would probobly do just as good(if they had ample time to set it up ofcourse)

what is the different on handling between the protoform speed 12 and 12B? which has more steering / downforce...etc? please advice

The speed 12 has more down force then the 12B my car feels more planted when I run it. The 12B is stable but feels more nimble when changing direction. I dont feel that one has more steering over the other just the 12B is faster in stock b/c it has less down force. Both bodies have a place and time to be used. The speed 12 is mainly a mod or lower traction body and the 12B is for stock and high traction type body. The speed 12B feels alot like the Parma Speed 8 but I get the feeling that its more stable at higher speeds or in sweepers. Or you can try both bodies and see for yourself how they feel....they are cheap enough. I hope this helps......

I agree with Kevin K. I have tried Both bodies for mod and stock. The Speed 12 was more suited for mod by making the car feel more planted going into the straightaways out of a turn, which the 12b became to unstable and loose. The Speed 12b in stock seem to make the car alittle more faster and caused less scrubbing of speed in the turns while the 12 made the car alittle more slugish due to the downforce being applied. Mind you I tested on both surfaces asphalt and carpet. Both are good bodies, but each has their purpose on where and when to use them.

I write to the organizing club and answered to me that until June they don't know anything about the rules.. :(

In regards to the "best 12th scale debate" over the last few pages:

If you look at alot of the details on the speedmerchant car, you can see why IMO its the best 12th scale out there. Firstly, of all the link kits, they come with the highest quality link ends. The link ends also act as a sort of pocket for the tweak springs. Secondly, the tweak springs are farther out than on other cars meaning that you can take greater advantage of the progressiveness of the side springs. It also has the narrowest chassis preventing any sort of rubbing. Finally, the old skool front end is IMO vastly superior.

The CRC cars are great too, and its nice to see such great competition between them.

Keep in mind in the results comparison, that speedmerchant has really increased the arsenal of drivers between the birds and the nats. If you look at the nats A-main paces (not qual points but actual best runs) all cars and drivers were really close. Jeff did lay it down in qualifying though with his 40 lap run, but Jeff would be fast in any car, maybe even a roller skate.