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10-04-2007, 05:10 AM
I didnt have to cut anything on the battery or car. I did however cut two small pieces of lexan to fix into the battery slots to similate a six cell pack and secure the pack on to the car. The Peak/Orion 4800 in flat on the bottom and thats why we did this mod. The battery can still be removed by pushing up on the bottom side when there is no tape on the car. When placing the lexan pieces on the bottom make sure everything is lined up on top of the side - meaning that the battery doesn't rub against the belt, the -/+ poles dont rub against the chassis, and the pinion doesnt hit the battery case. Then turn the car over and place the lexan peices with servo tape through the battery slot holes unto the pack. I didnt cut the lexan pieces perfect and actually left alittle play so I could get the pack out of the car with ease. I also used shrink wrap on the plugs so I dont have to worry about that bulkheads.
Yes I did use a different steering track rod - it's the one that is the same as the standard but middle in length and I moved it up one hole from the back to give it clearance.
All this info was given to me by a guy at our track that has ran lipos forever and got me to switch over for practice and club racing - so thanks to Andrew Doherty.
I hope this helps and I will try to answer anything else you might have about it or come up with some type of solution for ya.
L8R Marker
Yes I did use a different steering track rod - it's the one that is the same as the standard but middle in length and I moved it up one hole from the back to give it clearance.
All this info was given to me by a guy at our track that has ran lipos forever and got me to switch over for practice and club racing - so thanks to Andrew Doherty.
I hope this helps and I will try to answer anything else you might have about it or come up with some type of solution for ya.
L8R Marker
10-04-2007, 05:22 AM
front...
1way
.5 toe in
screw block spacers 1mm frt and rear
wishbone klips 2mm frt 2mm rear
link washers 3mm..ie 1 2mm and 1 1mm
ride heigth 5.5mm
droop 2mm uptravle over ride heigth..or 5 on hudy guage
roll-bar 1.40...gold in coloer
caster block 4deg
camber 1.5 to 2 keep checking all 4 tires because they change
link washer 1mm
horizonal pin
Pivot blocks spacers 1.5mm
shocks..3hole I ran 30wt 40wt and 50wt and found 40 the best
spring...AE blue
2nd hole in on shock tower outside hole on a arm
from frt to back 3rd hole on center track rod plate
med/short plate
rear settings:
drive heigth low frt and rear ie:diff/1way set to low
toe: i ran 2 and 2.5 try both
screw block spacers front 2.5 rear 1mm
quik klips 2mmfrt 2mm rear
link washer horizontal 2.5mm
ride height 5.5mm
droop 3mm uptravle or 4 on hudy
roll bar 1.40 gold
camber 1.5 deg
link washer 3mm
inboard pin horizonal
pivot blocks spacers 1.5 on all 4
shocks 40wt 3hole
Silver AE spring
3rd hole in on shock tower
2nd hole in from outside on a arm
short camber link
motor orion19t and co27 116 spur 29 final drive 7.20
dope full rears 1/2 frt 70 to 80% dual rate
let me know if I missed anything ..this is a good setup for med to high bite
I tried both stiff and kit top deck ...I felt very happy with this set-up
Mazda speed 6 body......
1way
.5 toe in
screw block spacers 1mm frt and rear
wishbone klips 2mm frt 2mm rear
link washers 3mm..ie 1 2mm and 1 1mm
ride heigth 5.5mm
droop 2mm uptravle over ride heigth..or 5 on hudy guage
roll-bar 1.40...gold in coloer
caster block 4deg
camber 1.5 to 2 keep checking all 4 tires because they change
link washer 1mm
horizonal pin
Pivot blocks spacers 1.5mm
shocks..3hole I ran 30wt 40wt and 50wt and found 40 the best
spring...AE blue
2nd hole in on shock tower outside hole on a arm
from frt to back 3rd hole on center track rod plate
med/short plate
rear settings:
drive heigth low frt and rear ie:diff/1way set to low
toe: i ran 2 and 2.5 try both
screw block spacers front 2.5 rear 1mm
quik klips 2mmfrt 2mm rear
link washer horizontal 2.5mm
ride height 5.5mm
droop 3mm uptravle or 4 on hudy
roll bar 1.40 gold
camber 1.5 deg
link washer 3mm
inboard pin horizonal
pivot blocks spacers 1.5 on all 4
shocks 40wt 3hole
Silver AE spring
3rd hole in on shock tower
2nd hole in from outside on a arm
short camber link
motor orion19t and co27 116 spur 29 final drive 7.20
dope full rears 1/2 frt 70 to 80% dual rate
let me know if I missed anything ..this is a good setup for med to high bite
I tried both stiff and kit top deck ...I felt very happy with this set-up
Mazda speed 6 body......
How did you finish at the race
10-04-2007, 05:49 AM
10-04-2007, 05:54 AM
10-04-2007, 06:12 AM
Nexus--
I would say your rear end is a little soft--and/or the front is a little stiff.
Could be spring, damping, swaybar, shock angle or a combo therof.
Also, track width could be an issue (ie too wide front and/or too narrow rear)
Droop might be an issue, does it do it more/less throughout the run?
...Course, it could also be a c-link/and or roll-center issue...
Starting simple, though, could you just have too much front/too little rear bite?
I would say your rear end is a little soft--and/or the front is a little stiff.
Could be spring, damping, swaybar, shock angle or a combo therof.
Also, track width could be an issue (ie too wide front and/or too narrow rear)
Droop might be an issue, does it do it more/less throughout the run?
...Course, it could also be a c-link/and or roll-center issue...
Starting simple, though, could you just have too much front/too little rear bite?
Last edited by DIALED; 10-04-2007 at 08:52 AM.
10-04-2007, 08:39 AM
A diff is OK in my opinion with carpet/rubber tires or really rubber tires in general. I prefer the spool on carpet and asphalt. It's always faster but a little harder to drive and setup the car.
Also running a spool or oneway can break more if you hit hard. If I want to play it safe I would use a diff. But when I want to really see how much I can get out of the car I run the spool.
Also running a spool or oneway can break more if you hit hard. If I want to play it safe I would use a diff. But when I want to really see how much I can get out of the car I run the spool.
10-04-2007, 09:29 AM
Hey Goetz,
Didn't you post before your explainations of some setups...
Like explaining anti-dive, anti-squat, camber links, etc? I thought I read a post like that from you before in this thread but I couldn't find it.
p.s. Think Obey Schumacher :P
Didn't you post before your explainations of some setups...
Like explaining anti-dive, anti-squat, camber links, etc? I thought I read a post like that from you before in this thread but I couldn't find it.
p.s. Think Obey Schumacher :P
10-04-2007, 10:20 AM
A diff is OK in my opinion with carpet/rubber tires or really rubber tires in general. I prefer the spool on carpet and asphalt. It's always faster but a little harder to drive and setup the car.
Also running a spool or oneway can break more if you hit hard. If I want to play it safe I would use a diff. But when I want to really see how much I can get out of the car I run the spool.
Also running a spool or oneway can break more if you hit hard. If I want to play it safe I would use a diff. But when I want to really see how much I can get out of the car I run the spool.
10-04-2007, 10:28 AM
Tech Master
Your not going to get as much steering with a diff. I only run a diff with foam tires. On asphalt I like a spool and on carpet I run a one-way. One-ways were deffinately the ticket at the IIC. 
10-04-2007, 11:40 AM
interesting.
I will have to try it. Right now I like the spool and don't ever use brakes either. But some of my problems are on really tight turns and/or 180s which could be due to running a spool.
Thanks
10-04-2007, 11:48 AM
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10-04-2007, 12:13 PM
10-04-2007, 12:49 PM
made the c main in both stk and 19 I fed up in stock and doped full frt's made the car loose so,I took some dual rate out and didn't go re set it in 19 so I had a push by the time I did turn it up it was too late...my 1st time out with the car and no wheel time for 6 months didn't help but all in all the car is good,never felt this way about any other car...looking for a 2nd now to tell the truth.. the set-up i posted is 1 of the best u gonna get for mid to high bite....all u need to do is drive
10-04-2007, 12:58 PM
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Randy,
Did you get my e-mail? My e-mail hasn't been working right so I was just checking.
Did you get my e-mail? My e-mail hasn't been working right so I was just checking.
10-04-2007, 02:58 PM
made the c main in both stk and 19 I fed up in stock and doped full frt's made the car loose so,I took some dual rate out and didn't go re set it in 19 so I had a push by the time I did turn it up it was too late...my 1st time out with the car and no wheel time for 6 months didn't help but all in all the car is good,never felt this way about any other car...looking for a 2nd now to tell the truth.. the set-up i posted is 1 of the best u gonna get for mid to high bite....all u need to do is drive
Which top deck did you settle on?
Tyre Warmers?
Additive?
Can't think of anything else at the moment
