Novak Kinetic
10-27-2010, 12:02 PM
#1036
Tech Master
Does anybody have any suggestions on what is the most convienent, smallest and practical computer to have pitside for the Novalink and other systems? Looked at netbooks/notebooks but they do not have cd drives. In the market for a computer but want to make the right decision the first time. Thanks for any assistance.
10-27-2010, 02:04 PM
#1039
Our Havoc 2S esc and systems are rated to 8.5T and above. The Havoc Pro is related to our GTB with some additional programming options.
10-27-2010, 02:05 PM
#1040
Tim Ski
10-27-2010, 02:10 PM
#1041
Does anybody have any suggestions on what is the most convienent, smallest and practical computer to have pitside for the Novalink and other systems? Looked at netbooks/notebooks but they do not have cd drives. In the market for a computer but want to make the right decision the first time. Thanks for any assistance.
10-27-2010, 08:52 PM
#1042
Does anybody have any suggestions on what is the most convienent, smallest and practical computer to have pitside for the Novalink and other systems? Looked at netbooks/notebooks but they do not have cd drives. In the market for a computer but want to make the right decision the first time. Thanks for any assistance.
Last edited by Johnny Wishbone; 10-27-2010 at 09:05 PM.
10-27-2010, 09:08 PM
#1043
Our racing Kinetic 1S was designed and harnessed for use with an external rx pack (all of our escs work fine on low voltage). This (ext rx pack) is considered the best option for serious single cell racing. External (or internal) booster circuitry necessary to power the other electronics that do not operate on low voltage---high-power servos and receivers---are often not adequate. That's why we support the external rx pack.
No thanks. The day I have to run a receiver pack is the day I quit.
I'm certainly no electronics whiz (FAR from one, in fact) but it would seem to me that putting an on-board boosting circuitry in and making it so it's toggled on or off like the LiPo cutoff has been for a couple years would be not only possible but a desireable feature.
Like I said, I guess I should be delighted to just stay with what I've got. But I'd SO been looking forward to (and made sacrifice for) the Kinetic that I just can't get over the assumption that receiver packs is the way to go.
10-27-2010, 09:13 PM
#1044
Only Problem is with ROAR's ever highly intelligent guidance, the necessity now to finish developing the Kinetic is non-existent. If they don't have to chase down Tekin, why even try? Why run the Dynamic System for a whole year, then roll back the clock? There are a lot of other companies that are in the game. Something's fishy here, Novak have some political pull even though they weren't able to compete on the track? Ahh the beauty of stagnation, great. Thanks Novak and ROAR. Think of all the cash that was wasted by all these other companies and a mass of racers purchasing products for "Dynamic" Racing. Glad the dues paying members come into consideration.
Lets remodel every class with a mind toward the beginner that may show up. Make sure and go much slower so we don't offend anyone. This is no-child-left-behind meets RC racing. Fun Stuff.
Lets remodel every class with a mind toward the beginner that may show up. Make sure and go much slower so we don't offend anyone. This is no-child-left-behind meets RC racing. Fun Stuff.
10-28-2010, 08:27 AM
#1045
Sorry, but the exact MOMENT that a receiver pack becomes necessary we've thrown out EVERY ounce of convenience that going to LiPos offered us. In fact we've regressed. Now I have TWO batteries to keep track of for my car.
No thanks. The day I have to run a receiver pack is the day I quit.
I'm certainly no electronics whiz (FAR from one, in fact) but it would seem to me that putting an on-board boosting circuitry in and making it so it's toggled on or off like the LiPo cutoff has been for a couple years would be not only possible but a desireable feature.
Like I said, I guess I should be delighted to just stay with what I've got. But I'd SO been looking forward to (and made sacrifice for) the Kinetic that I just can't get over the assumption that receiver packs is the way to go.
No thanks. The day I have to run a receiver pack is the day I quit.
I'm certainly no electronics whiz (FAR from one, in fact) but it would seem to me that putting an on-board boosting circuitry in and making it so it's toggled on or off like the LiPo cutoff has been for a couple years would be not only possible but a desireable feature.
Like I said, I guess I should be delighted to just stay with what I've got. But I'd SO been looking forward to (and made sacrifice for) the Kinetic that I just can't get over the assumption that receiver packs is the way to go.
10-28-2010, 10:55 AM
#1046
Sorry, but the exact MOMENT that a receiver pack becomes necessary we've thrown out EVERY ounce of convenience that going to LiPos offered us. In fact we've regressed. Now I have TWO batteries to keep track of for my car.
No thanks. The day I have to run a receiver pack is the day I quit.
I'm certainly no electronics whiz (FAR from one, in fact) but it would seem to me that putting an on-board boosting circuitry in and making it so it's toggled on or off like the LiPo cutoff has been for a couple years would be not only possible but a desireable feature.
Like I said, I guess I should be delighted to just stay with what I've got. But I'd SO been looking forward to (and made sacrifice for) the Kinetic that I just can't get over the assumption that receiver packs is the way to go.
No thanks. The day I have to run a receiver pack is the day I quit.
I'm certainly no electronics whiz (FAR from one, in fact) but it would seem to me that putting an on-board boosting circuitry in and making it so it's toggled on or off like the LiPo cutoff has been for a couple years would be not only possible but a desireable feature.
Like I said, I guess I should be delighted to just stay with what I've got. But I'd SO been looking forward to (and made sacrifice for) the Kinetic that I just can't get over the assumption that receiver packs is the way to go.
oh btw, Brian Bodine uses a rcvr pack, and if its good enough for him, then.......
10-28-2010, 12:37 PM
#1047
Tech Master
An internal Kinetic 1S booster circuit would require a larger esc case. Installing our SmartBoost circuitry into our Havoc 1S was possible because there was space inside the case for it. Booster circuits are not equivalent to the performance of the external rx pack. At the end of a run/charge when the single cell has very low voltage left, a booster (especially with a spectrum RX) cannot provide enough voltage and you can experience intermittent power loss; start/stop.
I was really wan`ting a Kinetic but i think sadly it will be LRP for me as that is the moast convinient.
Bob, i hope you will consider making this at a later stage, as i realy would like to hve something not many other guys here n Norway have.
Could you also please post the hight of the Kinetic?
10-28-2010, 04:58 PM
#1048
Booster circuits are not equivalent to the performance of the external rx pack. At the end of a run/charge when the single cell has very low voltage left, a booster (especially with a spectrum RX) cannot provide enough voltage and you can experience intermittent power loss; start/stop.
This is what I do, when I'm finished with a run, it requires recharging the main battery, so after I get done plugging in the charger for that pack, I plug in the charger for the rcvr pack, its not really that much work, trust me, it can be done is less then 15 seconds with practice. it keeps me for having to keep a log book and all that extra work trying to "keep track".
oh btw, Brian Bodine uses a rcvr pack, and if its good enough for him, then.......
oh btw, Brian Bodine uses a rcvr pack, and if its good enough for him, then.......
10-28-2010, 07:49 PM
#1049
Uh...it AIN'T like the Kinetic is actually small or anything...
Boy are all the people I know who are using boosters and Spektrum in their 1s cars going to be surprised with this bit of news. The booster we're using is making 5v clear down as far as we're drawing packs, and the Novak booster SHOULD be making 6. We're not having any "brown out" problems here. We're currently running Spec 17.5 in 1/12 and open 13.5 in WGT with no problem. I've run open 10.5 in WGT with no brown-out problems either. Maybe folks who are running LOW wind motors are loading their batteries out that hard, but we sure aren't.
Sorry to disappoint Richie, but B. Bodine does a LOT of things (like win nationally significant races, etc) that I don't, or won't, do. I maintain...we went to LiPo, ostensibly, for CONVENIENCE. Having to mess with TWO chargers now to charge my car just doesn't seem overly convenient to me. Especially when there is an alternative that I know for fact doesn't penalize me in the slightest. Maybe if my last name was Blackstock, Baker or Bodine I would notice a performance difference. I'm just me, though, and I'd bet whatever you care to lose that my times would be the same whether using a booster or receiver pack.
Boy are all the people I know who are using boosters and Spektrum in their 1s cars going to be surprised with this bit of news. The booster we're using is making 5v clear down as far as we're drawing packs, and the Novak booster SHOULD be making 6. We're not having any "brown out" problems here. We're currently running Spec 17.5 in 1/12 and open 13.5 in WGT with no problem. I've run open 10.5 in WGT with no brown-out problems either. Maybe folks who are running LOW wind motors are loading their batteries out that hard, but we sure aren't.
Sorry to disappoint Richie, but B. Bodine does a LOT of things (like win nationally significant races, etc) that I don't, or won't, do. I maintain...we went to LiPo, ostensibly, for CONVENIENCE. Having to mess with TWO chargers now to charge my car just doesn't seem overly convenient to me. Especially when there is an alternative that I know for fact doesn't penalize me in the slightest. Maybe if my last name was Blackstock, Baker or Bodine I would notice a performance difference. I'm just me, though, and I'd bet whatever you care to lose that my times would be the same whether using a booster or receiver pack.
I've seen you drive, ain't no way in hell I'm taking that bet
10-28-2010, 08:20 PM
#1050
Like I said, I'm me...and drive like it. No delusions, no pretensions. Solid B-main performer most of the time.