XERUN V2.0 Brushless ESC discussion thread.
02-20-2010, 02:53 AM
#256
Tech Apprentice
Wow, I' sorry, my mistake! It should be V1.02!
02-20-2010, 03:22 AM
#257
02-20-2010, 09:06 AM
#258
Tried maximize the punch at level 9, 22 timing and can really feel the power on 11.5t running a 5.01 fdr, temps after 5min was 70deg C on motor while esc was at 45deg C. Kept up with 9.5t on tekin and 9.5t on the sxx tc spec in the straights.
02-20-2010, 09:33 AM
#259
02-22-2010, 10:02 AM
#260
No news about the Hobbywing new software .They should have released it untill 10 Febr. but so far,nothing.
02-22-2010, 05:59 PM
#261
Tech Adept
iTrader: (10)
Hi all, this is all new to me. Is this the programming box http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Hobbywing-2in...item5d2683d881 That is been used?
Alot of good info in this thread, thanks to all who have contributed.
I have got a couple of HW combo's on the way. Thanks Leigh
Alot of good info in this thread, thanks to all who have contributed.
I have got a couple of HW combo's on the way. Thanks Leigh
02-22-2010, 06:03 PM
#262
Hi all, this is all new to me. Is this the programming box http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Hobbywing-2in...item5d2683d881 That is been used?
Alot of good info in this thread, thanks to all who have contributed.
I have got a couple of HW combo's on the way. Thanks Leigh
Alot of good info in this thread, thanks to all who have contributed.
I have got a couple of HW combo's on the way. Thanks Leigh
http://www.hobbypartz.com/hobbywing-...ogram-box.html
they're in california so you'll get it much faster than the china ones.
EDIT: that's if you're in the US that is.
02-22-2010, 06:36 PM
#263
Tech Adept
iTrader: (10)
Iam in Australia, so about the same time wise. Thanks Leigh
that's the one... if you're gonna get it by itself, i'd suggest buying it here:
http://www.hobbypartz.com/hobbywing-...ogram-box.html
they're in california so you'll get it much faster than the china ones.
EDIT: that's if you're in the US that is.
http://www.hobbypartz.com/hobbywing-...ogram-box.html
they're in california so you'll get it much faster than the china ones.
EDIT: that's if you're in the US that is.
02-27-2010, 01:18 PM
#264
I think i'll get my Mamba Max pro before Hobbywing release the new software as they mentioned.Hobbywing has to wake up.Spring Festival (8th to 21th Feb) has finished and they should have released it untill 10 Feb.
02-27-2010, 02:31 PM
#265
Gearing Observations
Last night I ran at Maritime raceway in my usual track. I started with my Fantom 10.5 with 10 degrees mechanical timing as is usual. I also have the AMTS set at 26.25 and the DDRS at VII. However I had gotten there 2 hours early so had some time on the track and as we all know time = time to mess with things (and cock them up generally in my case). 
However...... I started out with my last gearing at 5.95:1 FDR and began dropping teeth on the pinion one by one, running for a couple of minutes and then checking lap times. By the time I had come down from 30 to 26 the car had gained 2.5 seconds PER lap. The funny thing was then temps were dropping until I hit 27 and then started to rise again as I went to 26. I finally dropped to 25 about 7.45:1 and the speed was noticeably slower and the motor was uber hot.
I dropped back to 26 Tooth, 7.15:1 and the car was super quick down the straight and had masses of rip in the infield, now this is not a particularly small track by any stretch and the car was matching my buddy with an SPX and a ludicrous amount of timing down the straight.
The whole thing just seemed to have come alive, I just wonder how much people have looked into dropping the gearing to allow the motor to rev out and use all available timing, as we all talk about really low FDR's but maybe we need to be looking at 'using' the Kv on the motors to best effect, as Shawn at SP says on the Heartland video, "with the software they are able to DOUBLE the Kv of the motor", why are we frying motors when we are not using the power in the best possible way?
The SPX guys at our track have had gearing in the high 7's and low 8's for months and now I see why.
What started me thinking was that the car was still accelerating at the braking point at the end of the straight and I thought why am I wasting the opportunity to have monster acceleration and never actually reaching the top speed of the car for the track. I am now converted am gonna drop the gearing back to 7.45 and move the mechanical timing on the motor to full advance (20 degrees) and then repeat the process to see if the motor has any more to give.
During my final I was at P10 and had 'blasted past everyone upto 4th place from the start line this was even before the usual first corner messy crashes, and had 4th for about 2 minutes until I made several crappy attempts at lapping people and managed to write myself off down to 7th. As is usual the car was outperforming the driver but OMG it was quick.
Has anyone else come across this before or am I barking up the wrong tree?
However...... I started out with my last gearing at 5.95:1 FDR and began dropping teeth on the pinion one by one, running for a couple of minutes and then checking lap times. By the time I had come down from 30 to 26 the car had gained 2.5 seconds PER lap. The funny thing was then temps were dropping until I hit 27 and then started to rise again as I went to 26. I finally dropped to 25 about 7.45:1 and the speed was noticeably slower and the motor was uber hot.
I dropped back to 26 Tooth, 7.15:1 and the car was super quick down the straight and had masses of rip in the infield, now this is not a particularly small track by any stretch and the car was matching my buddy with an SPX and a ludicrous amount of timing down the straight.
The whole thing just seemed to have come alive, I just wonder how much people have looked into dropping the gearing to allow the motor to rev out and use all available timing, as we all talk about really low FDR's but maybe we need to be looking at 'using' the Kv on the motors to best effect, as Shawn at SP says on the Heartland video, "with the software they are able to DOUBLE the Kv of the motor", why are we frying motors when we are not using the power in the best possible way?
The SPX guys at our track have had gearing in the high 7's and low 8's for months and now I see why.
What started me thinking was that the car was still accelerating at the braking point at the end of the straight and I thought why am I wasting the opportunity to have monster acceleration and never actually reaching the top speed of the car for the track. I am now converted am gonna drop the gearing back to 7.45 and move the mechanical timing on the motor to full advance (20 degrees) and then repeat the process to see if the motor has any more to give.
During my final I was at P10 and had 'blasted past everyone upto 4th place from the start line this was even before the usual first corner messy crashes, and had 4th for about 2 minutes until I made several crappy attempts at lapping people and managed to write myself off down to 7th. As is usual the car was outperforming the driver but OMG it was quick.
Has anyone else come across this before or am I barking up the wrong tree?
03-02-2010, 02:44 PM
#266
Can you do this with a Venom 120A? It's looks like a repackaged Xerun. For some reason I think it's sensor plug is not working, may be a software upgrade can fix the problem. Any suggestion?
http://www.venom-group.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=VEN-1339
http://www.venom-group.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=VEN-1339
03-02-2010, 03:36 PM
#267
Can you do this with a Venom 120A? It's looks like a repackaged Xerun. For some reason I think it's sensor plug is not working, may be a software upgrade can fix the problem. Any suggestion?
http://www.venom-group.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=VEN-1339
http://www.venom-group.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=VEN-1339
So far we know the SpeedPassion software works on the Hobbywing Speedo's, and I can see no reason why (no warranty implied) the same procedure outlined in my earlier posts to 'flash' the Firmware will not work.
Get hold of a Hobbywing LCD Professional Box plug it in and give it a try.
Please be aware that there is no guarantee that this will work, and it will almost certainly invalidate your warranty and 'could' possibly lead to you damaging your Speed Controller. However if it works the benefits are HUGE with awesome speed and power galore.
Good luck and if you do try it please please post back here and let us know how you found the process.
03-02-2010, 05:18 PM
#268
The speedy as it is atm is pretty **** right now without the sensor working. So may as well give it ago... I won't be doing this any time soon... as I'm going away for a while but will post the outcome when I finally get to it.
thanks cherry2blost
thanks cherry2blost
03-04-2010, 08:23 PM
#269
As far as I am aware (No guarantees) they are the same basic speedo as the HobbyWing 120SD, the Speed Passion GT 2.0 Pro, the MuchMore Fleta 3.0 and the Venom 120a.
So far we know the SpeedPassion software works on the Hobbywing Speedo's, and I can see no reason why (no warranty implied) the same procedure outlined in my earlier posts to 'flash' the Firmware will not work.
Get hold of a Hobbywing LCD Professional Box plug it in and give it a try.
Please be aware that there is no guarantee that this will work, and it will almost certainly invalidate your warranty and 'could' possibly lead to you damaging your Speed Controller. However if it works the benefits are HUGE with awesome speed and power galore.
Good luck and if you do try it please please post back here and let us know how you found the process.
So far we know the SpeedPassion software works on the Hobbywing Speedo's, and I can see no reason why (no warranty implied) the same procedure outlined in my earlier posts to 'flash' the Firmware will not work.
Get hold of a Hobbywing LCD Professional Box plug it in and give it a try.
Please be aware that there is no guarantee that this will work, and it will almost certainly invalidate your warranty and 'could' possibly lead to you damaging your Speed Controller. However if it works the benefits are HUGE with awesome speed and power galore.
Good luck and if you do try it please please post back here and let us know how you found the process.
03-04-2010, 10:39 PM
#270