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10-02-2018, 02:49 PM
A durable fan mount solution if you don't have room on the sides of your pods... I kept trying to shoo goo and servo tape the fan there at first but the turn marshals would always walk up to me after the race and hand my fan back to me haha!
EXO FAN MOUNT- CLAMP ON SET, 1/10 buggies, trucks and sedans - Exotek Racing
EXO FAN MOUNT- CLAMP ON SET, 1/10 buggies, trucks and sedans - Exotek Racing
10-02-2018, 03:10 PM
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10-03-2018, 05:33 AM
If I am not mistaken as stated, the F104v2 axle is shorter than a stock steel, titanium or carbon F103 axle. On the F103, the diff side hub was longer as well, not to mention the diff adjustment was the actual wheel nut, not the internal assembly as on the newer Tamiya F1 cars. When you could buy carbon axles from Beamcat, the F103 was longer with a wider grub screw patch, and the F104 axle was shorter with a smaller diff side grub screw patch.
10-03-2018, 07:30 AM
Tech Addict
F1 Realism
Hi F1 racers;
I realize this is a bit off topic, but I wanted to share this information regardless.
A couple years ago when the RC F1 class was really starting to take off, there was a lot of discussion and disagreement about the proper "look" of the cars. Realism is one of the key factors in RC F1's popularity over the years. When I did my first serious F1 body (the "Thirteen") a few people complained that it was too low in appearance. I was only doing that to try to give the RC F1 cars a longer look. I was under the impression that the real 1:1 F1 cars were as long as a full size/full frame American sedan @ approximately 115 inch wheelbase.
Well....I was ubelievable WRONG. They are much longer than that!! How about 31 inches longer than that!!! Yes, Hamilton's Mercedes w/b is longer than a full size Chevrolet Silverado Crewcab pick-up truck!!
The crew cab truck has a 143 inch wheelbase and the Mercedes F1 car is over 146 inch wheelbase. That's 21 inches longer than an NHRA funny car's wheelbase!!! If I had not seen this, I'd never believe it.
Is it any wonder why I've struggled to come up with bodies that "look right". ?!?! Just sayin'.....
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/r...mpare/3174238/
https://www.gmfleet.com/gmc/sierra-1...imensions.html Click on "Dimensions"
Dale - Protoform
I realize this is a bit off topic, but I wanted to share this information regardless.
A couple years ago when the RC F1 class was really starting to take off, there was a lot of discussion and disagreement about the proper "look" of the cars. Realism is one of the key factors in RC F1's popularity over the years. When I did my first serious F1 body (the "Thirteen") a few people complained that it was too low in appearance. I was only doing that to try to give the RC F1 cars a longer look. I was under the impression that the real 1:1 F1 cars were as long as a full size/full frame American sedan @ approximately 115 inch wheelbase.
Well....I was ubelievable WRONG. They are much longer than that!! How about 31 inches longer than that!!! Yes, Hamilton's Mercedes w/b is longer than a full size Chevrolet Silverado Crewcab pick-up truck!!
The crew cab truck has a 143 inch wheelbase and the Mercedes F1 car is over 146 inch wheelbase. That's 21 inches longer than an NHRA funny car's wheelbase!!! If I had not seen this, I'd never believe it.
Is it any wonder why I've struggled to come up with bodies that "look right". ?!?! Just sayin'.....
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/r...mpare/3174238/
https://www.gmfleet.com/gmc/sierra-1...imensions.html Click on "Dimensions"
Dale - Protoform
10-03-2018, 07:36 AM
Yeah they look like a schoolbus now. Miss the old days, the MP4/5 had a 114" WB in the 80's. The Sauber C12 had 115"
10-03-2018, 08:20 AM
Tech Addict
They are that long because they can. It is all due to aero as well as mechanically a longer car is better assuming it has the needed stiffness. less body roll, faster turn in and more.
Once Min. weight limit goes down so does the length of the cars. And the sidepods will grow out as well. Sadly FIA do not understand this is a problem for the fans but personally i do not have a problem with them being long, and it is a easy fix by dropping the Min weight limit down.
The cars will grow in length for each year as long as the weight limit stays where it is.
And they will grow as long as the engines is getting more efficient.
higher efficiency means less cooling needed.
That is less weight in engine++ thus you can build a longer car.
A longer car means more efficient aero and thus less drag on top of the allready shrinking sidepod from the more efficient engine.
The length is a good indicator to who is ahead in the development. And when you have the best car and the best driver you will keep on winning.
Only by having more tight and technical street tracks can you see the shorter cars do a comeback. Red Bull won at Monaco did they not?
Once Min. weight limit goes down so does the length of the cars. And the sidepods will grow out as well. Sadly FIA do not understand this is a problem for the fans but personally i do not have a problem with them being long, and it is a easy fix by dropping the Min weight limit down.
The cars will grow in length for each year as long as the weight limit stays where it is.
And they will grow as long as the engines is getting more efficient.
higher efficiency means less cooling needed.
That is less weight in engine++ thus you can build a longer car.
A longer car means more efficient aero and thus less drag on top of the allready shrinking sidepod from the more efficient engine.
The length is a good indicator to who is ahead in the development. And when you have the best car and the best driver you will keep on winning.
Only by having more tight and technical street tracks can you see the shorter cars do a comeback. Red Bull won at Monaco did they not?
Last edited by MatsNorway; 10-04-2018 at 05:24 AM.
10-03-2018, 08:40 AM
Well, i cant tell the axles apart in my pit box, and they work in both cars.
10-03-2018, 09:25 AM
10-03-2018, 10:29 AM
Overall yes, yet the physical shaft (Carbon, Steel or Ti) is actually shorter on the F104. Which was what was inquired about. If you get the F103 Tamiya 54127 (Carbon Axle) and try to install the newer type diff, you will need to shorten it. We have discussed this on Tamiya Club many years ago, when people were trying to modify their existing F103's to run a F104 Type Setup.
F104 Carbon Axle on left, F103 Steel Axle on right.
F104 Carbon Axle on left, F103 Steel Axle on right.
10-03-2018, 01:36 PM
