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Old 06-21-2010, 01:18 AM   #3331
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I installed the battery tray I got from Yodog today and my battery fits like a glove on my E4 I'm using TP 5000. Since the battery tray is only 1mm thick the battery seat lower on the chassis eliminating the need of the 2mm spacer to raise the top deck and made the COG even more lower. Good job Rick I'll get another one so let me know when will you get some more.
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Old 06-21-2010, 01:59 AM   #3332
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If you are going to use springs other than Team Magic springs you have to use a short springs like tamiya short spring or K-factory. Other manufacturer have a longer springs thats why you are not getting the proper ride hide. You can make it work but you have to replace the shock retaining cups with associated ones I believe.
They are TM springs and they are also the same length as the k factory ones at 23.5mm the stock TM are 21mm.
What associated shock retaining cups do i use?

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Don't use droop to adjust your ride you are going to have handling issues.
I know, this is why ive asked how to get it set without doing this.

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Old 06-21-2010, 02:15 PM   #3333
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You shouldn't have a problem adjusting your ride height.

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They are TM springs and they are also the same length as the k factory ones at 23.5mm the stock TM are 21mm.
What associated shock retaining cups do i use?



I know, this is why ive asked how to get it set without doing this.

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Old 06-21-2010, 02:43 PM   #3334
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The rack steering is on the Orginal E4 and I think latter JS.
The single crank steering used to be optional until the 09 car came out then it was installed as the default steering system. All previous E4 cars had the dual crank system. The E4FS, E4RS and the 09 RS can have either system installed. TM introduced the E4 then updated to both the E4FS and E4RS to make the car more specific to either foam or rubber tires. The 09 E4RS just further refined and updated the E4RS to accept brushless motors and LiPo batteries better. The Plastic fantastic was introduced around the same time as the 09 car. Now TM seems to be focusing on drifting options for the car.
I don't get the whole drifting thing but to each his own.
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Old 06-21-2010, 02:48 PM   #3335
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These are some pics from my car,
The second is the droop with shocks on,
The third is the droop with the shocks off, is this ammount of flex usual?
The fourth is the stock springs and the Team Magic springs for the E4
Maybe it's just me but don't most foam drivers run their tires a bit shorter than what I see in your pics?
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:01 PM   #3336
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I installed the battery case I got from Yodog today and my battery fits like a glove on my E4 I'm using TP 5000. Since the battery tray is only 1mm thick the battery seat lower on the chassis eliminating the need of the 2mm spacer to raise the top deck and made the COG even more lower. Good job Rick I'll get another one so let me know when will you get some more.
Glad you like the tray Kim. I have one more left and I hope to have more made real soon. it's always nice to have more than one tray so you can have a second or third battery ready to go right into the car.
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[QUOTE=Mitch-e4fs;7568229]They are TM springs and they are also the same length as the k factory ones at 23.5mm the stock TM are 21mm.
What associated shock retaining cups do i use?

Use these ones http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ips-and-Cups-4
and trim off the part that goes against the shock end flush and you will be able to get ride height.
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:30 PM   #3338
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Thanks for the offer, Im using foams at 63 ish mm, no sways on the rear (where the problem is) Nothing is locking up or binding.
Its just that i have to use more droop to get the ride height, , which is also putting some pretension on the springs. Without this droop im at about 9mm high in the rear. The fronts need no extra droop with the shock collars wound all the way up to.
Ill try to get some pics up and the setup im trying to use is the Olivier gremillet Trets-ligue setup from the Petitrc website

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Perhaps wind shock ball caps... shorten your shocks?
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The single crank steering used to be optional until the 09 car came out then it was installed as the default steering system. All previous E4 cars had the dual crank system. The E4FS, E4RS and the 09 RS can have either system installed. TM introduced the E4 then updated to both the E4FS and E4RS to make the car more specific to either foam or rubber tires. The 09 E4RS just further refined and updated the E4RS to accept brushless motors and LiPo batteries better. The Plastic fantastic was introduced around the same time as the 09 car. Now TM seems to be focusing on drifting options for the car.
I don't get the whole drifting thing but to each his own.
Im assuming the Drift thing is to use up parts from older models in parrallel to new releases. Spreading their market I think.
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They are TM springs and they are also the same length as the k factory ones at 23.5mm the stock TM are 21mm.
What associated shock retaining cups do i use?

Use these ones http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ips-and-Cups-4
and trim off the part that goes against the shock end flush and you will be able to get ride height.

Yes, TM shock spring retainers and ball ends are short as the cup inserts into the spring retainer. If not using the TM ones, you may have too much shock length.
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Bring me another battery tray next race Rick for my 09' car.

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Glad you like the tray Kim. I have one more left and I hope to have more made real soon. it's always nice to have more than one tray so you can have a second or third battery ready to go right into the car.
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Small question Mitch,

Do you use the original FS rear suspension arms??
If so switch to the RS or JS rear arms and you have more play.
The lower pickup point(bottum) is different then the one on the original FS arms.
I had the same problem with my FS and put the RS or JS arms on the car and poof problem solved even with the TM springs.

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I recently bought an e4fs and have been having some problems getting the ride height down to a reasonable level, I've found some setup sheets for carpet racing and they all want a 4-5mm ride height with team magic pink and purple springs. But those springs are much longer than stock and particularly in the rear I need 6mm or more droop to get the car to sit right. Is this right or am I missing something with my setup?
The car is used for 540 racing with a 4000mah lipo and a min weight of 1.425 kg

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Old 06-24-2010, 12:42 AM   #3343
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Small question Mitch,

Do you use the original FS rear suspension arms??
If so switch to the RS or JS rear arms and you have more play.
The lower pickup point(bottum) is different then the one on the original FS arms.
I had the same problem with my FS and put the RS or JS arms on the car and poof problem solved even with the TM springs.

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Fixed. This was exactly the problem, it appears the RS arms are quite different to the FS, no spacers at either end and the ball mount is closer to the wheel so the shocks get a bit more length and you cant fit 30mm rear foams either.

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Your welcome

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Fixed. This was exactly the problem, it appears the RS arms are quite different to the FS, no spacers at either end and the ball mount is closer to the wheel so the shocks get a bit more length and you cant fit 30mm rear foams either.

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Have a question. Currently my local hobby shop only has Team Associated parts. Was curious if the Team Associated (TC5) spring set works on this car?

Have already tried the xray springs and they are quite noticeably larger.
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