Team Magic E4 Thread
06-21-2010 | 12:18 AM
#3331
I installed the battery tray I got from Yodog today and my battery fits like a glove on my E4 I'm using TP 5000. Since the battery tray is only 1mm thick the battery seat lower on the chassis eliminating the need of the 2mm spacer to raise the top deck and made the COG even more lower. Good job Rick I'll get another one so let me know when will you get some more.
Last edited by Jochim_18; 06-21-2010 at 04:27 PM.
06-21-2010 | 12:59 AM
#3332
If you are going to use springs other than Team Magic springs you have to use a short springs like tamiya short spring or K-factory. Other manufacturer have a longer springs thats why you are not getting the proper ride hide. You can make it work but you have to replace the shock retaining cups with associated ones I believe.
What associated shock retaining cups do i use?
Thanks
06-21-2010 | 01:15 PM
#3333
You shouldn't have a problem adjusting your ride height.
06-21-2010 | 01:43 PM
#3334
The single crank steering used to be optional until the 09 car came out then it was installed as the default steering system. All previous E4 cars had the dual crank system. The E4FS, E4RS and the 09 RS can have either system installed. TM introduced the E4 then updated to both the E4FS and E4RS to make the car more specific to either foam or rubber tires. The 09 E4RS just further refined and updated the E4RS to accept brushless motors and LiPo batteries better. The Plastic fantastic was introduced around the same time as the 09 car. Now TM seems to be focusing on drifting options for the car.
I don't get the whole drifting thing but to each his own.
I don't get the whole drifting thing but to each his own.
06-21-2010 | 01:48 PM
#3335
Maybe it's just me but don't most foam drivers run their tires a bit shorter than what I see in your pics?
06-21-2010 | 02:01 PM
#3336
I installed the battery case I got from Yodog today and my battery fits like a glove on my E4 I'm using TP 5000. Since the battery tray is only 1mm thick the battery seat lower on the chassis eliminating the need of the 2mm spacer to raise the top deck and made the COG even more lower. Good job Rick I'll get another one so let me know when will you get some more.
06-21-2010 | 02:09 PM
#3337
[QUOTE=Mitch-e4fs;7568229]They are TM springs and they are also the same length as the k factory ones at 23.5mm the stock TM are 21mm.
What associated shock retaining cups do i use?
Use these ones http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ips-and-Cups-4
and trim off the part that goes against the shock end flush and you will be able to get ride height.
What associated shock retaining cups do i use?
Use these ones http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ips-and-Cups-4
and trim off the part that goes against the shock end flush and you will be able to get ride height.
06-21-2010 | 03:30 PM
#3338
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Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,478
From: Brisbane
Thanks for the offer, Im using foams at 63 ish mm, no sways on the rear (where the problem is) Nothing is locking up or binding.
Its just that i have to use more droop to get the ride height, , which is also putting some pretension on the springs. Without this droop im at about 9mm high in the rear. The fronts need no extra droop with the shock collars wound all the way up to.
Ill try to get some pics up and the setup im trying to use is the Olivier gremillet Trets-ligue setup from the Petitrc website
Thanks
Its just that i have to use more droop to get the ride height, , which is also putting some pretension on the springs. Without this droop im at about 9mm high in the rear. The fronts need no extra droop with the shock collars wound all the way up to.
Ill try to get some pics up and the setup im trying to use is the Olivier gremillet Trets-ligue setup from the Petitrc website
Thanks
06-21-2010 | 03:32 PM
#3339
Tech Elite
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,478
From: Brisbane
The single crank steering used to be optional until the 09 car came out then it was installed as the default steering system. All previous E4 cars had the dual crank system. The E4FS, E4RS and the 09 RS can have either system installed. TM introduced the E4 then updated to both the E4FS and E4RS to make the car more specific to either foam or rubber tires. The 09 E4RS just further refined and updated the E4RS to accept brushless motors and LiPo batteries better. The Plastic fantastic was introduced around the same time as the 09 car. Now TM seems to be focusing on drifting options for the car.
I don't get the whole drifting thing but to each his own.
I don't get the whole drifting thing but to each his own.
06-21-2010 | 03:34 PM
#3340
Tech Elite
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,478
From: Brisbane
[QUOTE=Rockpyle;7570662]
Yes, TM shock spring retainers and ball ends are short as the cup inserts into the spring retainer. If not using the TM ones, you may have too much shock length.
They are TM springs and they are also the same length as the k factory ones at 23.5mm the stock TM are 21mm.
What associated shock retaining cups do i use?
Use these ones http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ips-and-Cups-4
and trim off the part that goes against the shock end flush and you will be able to get ride height.
What associated shock retaining cups do i use?
Use these ones http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ips-and-Cups-4
and trim off the part that goes against the shock end flush and you will be able to get ride height.
Yes, TM shock spring retainers and ball ends are short as the cup inserts into the spring retainer. If not using the TM ones, you may have too much shock length.
06-21-2010 | 04:29 PM
#3341
06-21-2010 | 11:12 PM
#3342
Small question Mitch,
Do you use the original FS rear suspension arms??
If so switch to the RS or JS rear arms and you have more play.
The lower pickup point(bottum) is different then the one on the original FS arms.
I had the same problem with my FS and put the RS or JS arms on the car and poof problem solved even with the TM springs.
regards Roy
Do you use the original FS rear suspension arms??
If so switch to the RS or JS rear arms and you have more play.
The lower pickup point(bottum) is different then the one on the original FS arms.
I had the same problem with my FS and put the RS or JS arms on the car and poof problem solved even with the TM springs.
regards Roy
Hi all
I recently bought an e4fs and have been having some problems getting the ride height down to a reasonable level, I've found some setup sheets for carpet racing and they all want a 4-5mm ride height with team magic pink and purple springs. But those springs are much longer than stock and particularly in the rear I need 6mm or more droop to get the car to sit right. Is this right or am I missing something with my setup?
The car is used for 540 racing with a 4000mah lipo and a min weight of 1.425 kg
Thanks
Mitch
I recently bought an e4fs and have been having some problems getting the ride height down to a reasonable level, I've found some setup sheets for carpet racing and they all want a 4-5mm ride height with team magic pink and purple springs. But those springs are much longer than stock and particularly in the rear I need 6mm or more droop to get the car to sit right. Is this right or am I missing something with my setup?
The car is used for 540 racing with a 4000mah lipo and a min weight of 1.425 kg
Thanks
Mitch
06-23-2010 | 11:42 PM
#3343
Small question Mitch,
Do you use the original FS rear suspension arms??
If so switch to the RS or JS rear arms and you have more play.
The lower pickup point(bottum) is different then the one on the original FS arms.
I had the same problem with my FS and put the RS or JS arms on the car and poof problem solved even with the TM springs.
regards Roy
Do you use the original FS rear suspension arms??
If so switch to the RS or JS rear arms and you have more play.
The lower pickup point(bottum) is different then the one on the original FS arms.
I had the same problem with my FS and put the RS or JS arms on the car and poof problem solved even with the TM springs.
regards Roy
Thanks all
06-24-2010 | 01:55 AM
#3344
Your welcome
regards Roy
regards Roy
06-28-2010 | 11:05 AM
#3345
Have a question. Currently my local hobby shop only has Team Associated parts. Was curious if the Team Associated (TC5) spring set works on this car?
Have already tried the xray springs and they are quite noticeably larger.
Have already tried the xray springs and they are quite noticeably larger.