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Old 01-05-2010, 08:12 AM   #2851
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Did e-mail them allready twice but no responce yet
The red brace i allready have and the burgundy set also,same as the steering blocks.
Now i am looking for the red upper bulkheads to complete the car.

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Contact wolfs hobbies, he has them. for example:
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I would email him for top brace.
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Anyone here using RS PRO + Redline 13.5 from Tekin ? ...

I need a good setup for ESC and pinion/spur.

I was using GTB Novak with 3,6 FDR, now i put the Tekin and went up to 4,13 but i still dont see differences with the Novak. It supposely to be going up to 5.0 in FDR as minimum base to let take advantage of timing advance and turbo boost, but im not sure about pinion/spur to use ... i have access to 30 and 33 pinion and 72 and 73 spur ... all this in 48P

any tip ?

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How do you figure out ur Final FDR ?

i know what my pinions and spur are but all i know about the internals that is is a FS internal in a RS chassis.
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Devide your dif poulie true your small poulie then you know your internal DR
So a E4RS has a 35 dif poulie and a 17 small poelie(same as the side poulies).
That gives a ratio of 2.0588......
No you have 73 main gear and 33 teeth pinion so 73/33x2.0588=4.554FDR
If i am not mistaken the E4FS has a internal ratio of 2 or at least mine has.
73/33x2=4.424
You can change your internal ratio by changing the dif poulie or the small poulie on your main drive and/or on the inside of your middle shaft.
Dif poulie are in 34 and 35 teeth and the small poulies are there in 17 and 18.
You can change the internal DR into 4 different types.

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How do you figure out ur Final FDR ?

i know what my pinions and spur are but all i know about the internals that is is a FS internal in a RS chassis.
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Old 01-05-2010, 09:07 AM   #2855
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Try this
Boost on 20
Turbo Max
Turbo dely 0,5
Throttle 5

For starters.
This is a setup i got from some one on a Dutch forum and he swears by it.
You have to gear the Tekin motor much lighter then any other motor.
Try a spur gear of 76 or 78 with your pinions

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Anyone here using RS PRO + Redline 13.5 from Tekin ? ...

I need a good setup for ESC and pinion/spur.

I was using GTB Novak with 3,6 FDR, now i put the Tekin and went up to 4,13 but i still dont see differences with the Novak. It supposely to be going up to 5.0 in FDR as minimum base to let take advantage of timing advance and turbo boost, but im not sure about pinion/spur to use ... i have access to 30 and 33 pinion and 72 and 73 spur ... all this in 48P

any tip ?

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wow O.o

so you saying i have. 104 Spur 35 pinion FS internal 2

104/35x2=5.9 ?

I am using that on a 6.5 atm which seem to run okay i think lots of Turque.

What do i need to change to ratio wise to make a 13.5 be happy in my chassis ?
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I am using a Tekin with a 110 spur and a 35 pinion for a 100 foot straight. You do want to be in the 5.0 - 6.0+ range with the Tekin depending on your track. Especially with the newest software. I am geared between 6.0 and 6.5 fdr.
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Old 01-05-2010, 09:28 AM   #2858
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Wow no wonder,...
i was trying to run 116/28*2=8
which was like wth is my car doing.

I dont have a tekin yet LOL i wished i had one lol.
Still using Speed Passion 1.1 no turbo but plenty adjustments for me.

Had a mamba Max pro which was perfect, but the size drove me nutts !
So i am looking at Speed Passion 2.0 GT or Tekin RS,

Anyone uses the Speed Passion and can tell me if the ESC hangs off alot ? the 1.1 hangs of a little not too bad.
I do like the SP with the Programming Box, not too fond of looking a lil LED bars and Laptop interface at the tracks.
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Yes on the FDR if you have a 34 dif and 17 small poulie.
Your FDR with a 13.5 motor depends on the track you are driving on
For example.
I drive on a small track(90 feet straight) and very twisty inside.
I have a FDR of 5.215 with a LRP Stock Spec and a GM Pro stock 13.5 motor.
The GM has a lot of torque but won't rev so high as a Tekin motor
If i use my GM ESC i have to gear down a bit as the GM has more timing in the software.
It all depends on track size.

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wow O.o

so you saying i have. 104 Spur 35 pinion FS internal 2

104/35x2=5.9 ?

I am using that on a 6.5 atm which seem to run okay i think lots of Turque.

What do i need to change to ratio wise to make a 13.5 be happy in my chassis ?
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Oh I run 17.5 by the way.
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Anyone here using RS PRO + Redline 13.5 from Tekin ? ...

I need a good setup for ESC and pinion/spur.

I was using GTB Novak with 3,6 FDR, now i put the Tekin and went up to 4,13 but i still dont see differences with the Novak. It supposely to be going up to 5.0 in FDR as minimum base to let take advantage of timing advance and turbo boost, but im not sure about pinion/spur to use ... i have access to 30 and 33 pinion and 72 and 73 spur ... all this in 48P

any tip ?

thanks,
Oh no...please don't say that the Tekin RS is almost the same as the GTB...

I can tell you from all the ppl that raced around me who used Tekin RS (like 100 of them...LOL) Racing 13.5...at some very small track, they were using the old software V200...were using final drive as high as 9.0 (YES...it is not typo, 9.0 final drive). For alittle bit bigger track, average wer 6.5 to 7. So...I think your gearing was WAY too tall....lower your pinion, raise your spur and keep playing with the timing and turbo.

I know the last time we raced outdoor with a 125 foot long straight, they were all using 6.8-7.2 final drive with the V200 software...

Now....here is the kicker, they just released the V203 and that is some INSANE software for 13.5....there were track and event already banning this software due to the "SPEED"....and from what I was told, ppl using the V203, with 13.5 motor, were gearing @ 7 and higher...

To sums it up...your gearing were too tall.
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Wow no wonder,...
i was trying to run 116/28*2=8
which was like wth is my car doing.

I dont have a tekin yet LOL i wished i had one lol.
Still using Speed Passion 1.1 no turbo but plenty adjustments for me.

Had a mamba Max pro which was perfect, but the size drove me nutts !
So i am looking at Speed Passion 2.0 GT or Tekin RS,

Anyone uses the Speed Passion and can tell me if the ESC hangs off alot ? the 1.1 hangs of a little not too bad.
I do like the SP with the Programming Box, not too fond of looking a lil LED bars and Laptop interface at the tracks.
I am glad you still has the E4....

If you are NOT using your MMP because it hang over the chassis a little....YOU ARE CRAZY. Please download the MMP latest software, run the CHEAT MODE, put that on your E4, even though it hang over alittle, or you have to use DUCT TAPE to mount...you MUST USE THAT SPEEDO to race again BD and TEKIN RS with V203 or you will have ZERO CHANCE.

I highly doubt the GT2 1110 software is even close to the V203. But I know SP has more software coming....

SP GT2 is almost the same size as the V1.1...so it DOES hang over no matter how to try it. Just like the V1.1.
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Hehehe Solara I blame you for me hating my JRX now ROFL.
I am able to dive into the turn at much higher speeds now and keep the speed inside a turn.
It has less steering but the harder i push it into the turn makes up for my angle i guess.

Dont get me wrong i love the MMP its like on steriods.
I had it sit on the side and have the Fan hanging off.
It runs great but at this time I really dont want to damage it when getting T-boned.

Our track has a Loong Straight
It has been changes out abit, it has more turns before the straight away now.
Lower right and Left of the pics have few S turns now.
http://www.mikes-hobbyshop.com/_imag...ck/Track01.jpg

I like the gearing of what i have atm 5.9FDR with a 6.5t
Any recomendations for a 13.5t ?
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Oh no...please don't say that the Tekin RS is almost the same as the GTB...

I can tell you from all the ppl that raced around me who used Tekin RS (like 100 of them...LOL) Racing 13.5...at some very small track, they were using the old software V200...were using final drive as high as 9.0 (YES...it is not typo, 9.0 final drive). For alittle bit bigger track, average wer 6.5 to 7. So...I think your gearing was WAY too tall....lower your pinion, raise your spur and keep playing with the timing and turbo.

I know the last time we raced outdoor with a 125 foot long straight, they were all using 6.8-7.2 final drive with the V200 software...

Now....here is the kicker, they just released the V203 and that is some INSANE software for 13.5....there were track and event already banning this software due to the "SPEED"....and from what I was told, ppl using the V203, with 13.5 motor, were gearing @ 7 and higher...

To sums it up...your gearing were too tall.

My back straight its almost 210 feet long, rubber outdoor asphalt.

Can anyone help me how to get that hight FDR numbers ?, i use 48P and its almost imposible to go as high as 5.5 !!

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Hehehe Solara I blame you for me hating my JRX now ROFL.
I am able to dive into the turn at much higher speeds now and keep the speed inside a turn.
It has less steering but the harder i push it into the turn makes up for my angle i guess.

Dont get me wrong i love the MMP its like on steriods.
I had it sit on the side and have the Fan hanging off.
It runs great but at this time I really dont want to damage it when getting T-boned.

Our track has a Loong Straight
It has been changes out abit, it has more turns before the straight away now.
Lower right and Left of the pics have few S turns now.
http://www.mikes-hobbyshop.com/_imag...ck/Track01.jpg

I like the gearing of what i have atm 5.9FDR with a 6.5t
Any recomendations for a 13.5t ?
If you are using V1.1....max out everything on programming. Gear @ 5.0 and check temperature. I ran 4.6-4.8 for indoor carpet...for your track (larger) and outdoor..I would go from 5.0 and might be higher, depends on the motor temp.

OR...get the GT2 and run the 1110 software @ 4.8....or go crazy with your MMP.
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