Team Magic E4 Thread
#2836
Hello all, I am looking into parts and prices for the E4. Does anyone know the difference between the following:
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/E4_Parts-...l_Joint_2.html
and
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/E4_Parts-...Dogbone_2.html
From the pics they seem similar, but the descriptions are different. What are the differences between a dogbone and universal joint? Is a joint similar to a CVD?
Also do pinions come in one set size, as I assume that manufacturers shafts are not all the same size.
Thanks,Jason.
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/E4_Parts-...l_Joint_2.html
and
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/E4_Parts-...Dogbone_2.html
From the pics they seem similar, but the descriptions are different. What are the differences between a dogbone and universal joint? Is a joint similar to a CVD?
Also do pinions come in one set size, as I assume that manufacturers shafts are not all the same size.
Thanks,Jason.
#2837
Hello all, I am looking into parts and prices for the E4. Does anyone know the difference between the following:
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/E4_Parts-...l_Joint_2.html
and
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/E4_Parts-...Dogbone_2.html
From the pics they seem similar, but the descriptions are different. What are the differences between a dogbone and universal joint? Is a joint similar to a CVD?
Also do pinions come in one set size, as I assume that manufacturers shafts are not all the same size.
Thanks,Jason.
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/E4_Parts-...l_Joint_2.html
and
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/E4_Parts-...Dogbone_2.html
From the pics they seem similar, but the descriptions are different. What are the differences between a dogbone and universal joint? Is a joint similar to a CVD?
Also do pinions come in one set size, as I assume that manufacturers shafts are not all the same size.
Thanks,Jason.
PS: We have snapped two of the 7075 Alu in the past month.. with 4.5 503124 is the steel version.
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/E4_Parts-...l_Joint_2.html
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#2838
I'd be daring enough to say that the latter 503216-1 is just the joint/dogbone, the first is 503216 the complete CVD.
PS: We have snapped two of the 7075 Alu in the past month.. with 4.5 503124 is the steel version.
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/E4_Parts-...l_Joint_2.html
h
PS: We have snapped two of the 7075 Alu in the past month.. with 4.5 503124 is the steel version.
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/E4_Parts-...l_Joint_2.html
h
~Jason.
#2839
TBH, we celebrated his first breakage as up until that point we couldnt get that much power to the ground with our chassis setup. (as we used 6.5T previously, now down to 4.5) It may be aging wheelhubs too..
Regardless, it's just a matter for Luke to better control his throttle off the bottom rpm range or use the steels and sacrifice some weight.
h
#2840
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Well I ran today. Not good because of traction rolling. First run I was on an A Main run... traction roll. It was like that all day until my "scrub" main. The car is fast enough. I got some good compliments on the car and I was not the only traction rolling. By the main I got the car to push. Throughout the day raised the camber links on the bulkhead 4 mm front and back, went to a 24lb front spring, 17lb pound spring rear and the last thing I did was mount the rear shocks on the inner most hole and the front shocks 1 hole in from the outer hole. The shock position change is when it stopped traction rolling. I used SJ-R 36R and still traction rolled with that hard tire until the end. I still like the car and it's fast if it stays on all four wheels...

#2841
During my test run today i also snapped a rear universal. I havent looked but i wish there was a rear steel version too. Im running a 3.5 and the overall balance and driveability of the car is great. I am close to a very good setp. I can see that in modified, the rear belt takes more load than the side and front belt. Definatly recommend the K factory belts....at least the rear for mod.
I didnt have to add much weight to balance the chassis using four scales...one for each wheel. Shock collars are almost all the same distance. I only had to add 1 1/2 turn on the collars to balance.
The 25lbs front and 17 rear seems to work well with medium traction with a flat roll center in the rear and 1mm shim in the front inside upper camber links. I have also 1mm anti dive in the front.
I didnt have to add much weight to balance the chassis using four scales...one for each wheel. Shock collars are almost all the same distance. I only had to add 1 1/2 turn on the collars to balance.
The 25lbs front and 17 rear seems to work well with medium traction with a flat roll center in the rear and 1mm shim in the front inside upper camber links. I have also 1mm anti dive in the front.
#2843
During my test run today i also snapped a rear universal. I havent looked but i wish there was a rear steel version too. Im running a 3.5 and the overall balance and driveability of the car is great. I am close to a very good setp. I can see that in modified, the rear belt takes more load than the side and front belt. Definatly recommend the K factory belts....at least the rear for mod.
I didnt have to add much weight to balance the chassis using four scales...one for each wheel. Shock collars are almost all the same distance. I only had to add 1 1/2 turn on the collars to balance.
The 25lbs front and 17 rear seems to work well with medium traction with a flat roll center in the rear and 1mm shim in the front inside upper camber links. I have also 1mm anti dive in the front.
I didnt have to add much weight to balance the chassis using four scales...one for each wheel. Shock collars are almost all the same distance. I only had to add 1 1/2 turn on the collars to balance.
The 25lbs front and 17 rear seems to work well with medium traction with a flat roll center in the rear and 1mm shim in the front inside upper camber links. I have also 1mm anti dive in the front.
There is a steel version of the joint/bone.
#2844
What place has the cheapest Metal Top Bulkhead Bracets that tie down the Shock Towers ?
I snapped mines -_-
And Wolf sells em for 50-60 bucks mushroom has em for 30-39
Any one else in the world carries these parts ?
I snapped mines -_-
And Wolf sells em for 50-60 bucks mushroom has em for 30-39
Any one else in the world carries these parts ?
#2845
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 21,220
From: Castle Mamba Max Pro. Feel its power!!!!!!!!!!
Just keep two tires in the groove and two out of the groove should give you that balance your looking for.
Did you change the front roll center on the front blocks? They have two positions. My car FS from the factory had the hinge pins in the lower of the two roll center postions. You might have already changed it but thought I would ask.

Did you change the front roll center on the front blocks? They have two positions. My car FS from the factory had the hinge pins in the lower of the two roll center postions. You might have already changed it but thought I would ask.
#2847
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 21,220
From: Castle Mamba Max Pro. Feel its power!!!!!!!!!!
I would run them in the high position in the front for sure. Try it and see if you like that and who know maybe the rear as well depending on how the car feels to you. Its a fairly quick change so if you don't car for it you can always put it back.
Another thing you can do is run the rear front ones high and the front ones low to take another degree or so of caster out of the car. It might help even more with the car in the middle out of the corner steering by mellowing it out and keeping it from over rotating and snapping on you.
Then again I don't have my car anymore so I might be wrong. I just pm'ed you my cell.
Another thing you can do is run the rear front ones high and the front ones low to take another degree or so of caster out of the car. It might help even more with the car in the middle out of the corner steering by mellowing it out and keeping it from over rotating and snapping on you.
Then again I don't have my car anymore so I might be wrong. I just pm'ed you my cell.
Last edited by wyd; 01-04-2010 at 07:27 AM.
#2848
i changed my wheel base,... that took care of my steering and corner speed.
Rear A-arms hinge pins has 1 metal shim on each side. I moved both rearwards pushing the a-arm forward. It does cause the rear to float alot but it works for me.
Rear A-arms hinge pins has 1 metal shim on each side. I moved both rearwards pushing the a-arm forward. It does cause the rear to float alot but it works for me.
#2849
#2850
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/cart.cgi?group=0&child=7087
I would email him for top brace.



