U.S. Vintage Trans-Am Racing
#7246
Tech Champion
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I just raced carpet oval for the first time in over 20 years earlier this month and was turned loose in a car being set-up for the Snowbirds. I was a bit skeptical, but it really was a lot of fun, and very challenging to hit those marks lap after lap after lap. The car was dialed PERFECTLY, the driver was a bit ragged.
#7247
Tech Champion
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Door-to-door doesn't mean occasionally near someone...door-to-door means extended periods of time with 2, 3, 4 or more cars that could be covered with a beach towel, passing and re-passing in consecutive turns based on who has the inside for which turn. I know it CAN mean different things to different people, but your example of "door-to-door" racing from a couple weeks ago now IN VTA had the closest finishers 2+ seconds apart, with most folks 4-6 seconds apart. That's not door-to-door, that's a parade where folks getting passed are "door-to-door" as they're getting their doors blown off, then back to single file.
#7248
Tech Regular
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did you just say that?....you want someone to go and buy a Ballistic for $90 bucks and run it for 5-6 months...and then turn around and buy a stator for another $40 in Sept.????...REALLY!...and do what with the 21.5 stator?....oh thats just another point Im making...more waste....
BTW...my tires last a long time...still have my original set...almost 3 years..(not ran every race...but still work just fine...lol)
BTW...my tires last a long time...still have my original set...almost 3 years..(not ran every race...but still work just fine...lol)
Everyone has their own opinion and ours just happen to differ,I feel if someone enjoys the class and wants to see it continue they will have no problem with the "extra" few dollars that a motor change will cost to bring the class back to what it was meant to be.
BTW I don't know how you have had a set of tires running for three years,you want a pile of 3 good and 1 bald tire sets to pass out?
#7250
Tech Elite
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I like the rules changes. How often do we get 9+ months to prepare for changes in any r/c class.
I think one thing that is being overlooked is that it is still up to local clubs to ultimately do what is best for local racing. No one said that local clubs couldn't further limit racers using timing advanced speed controls or 21.5 motors to be similar speeds to the 25.5 motor. A lot of clubs already have rules in place that create a level playing field in VTA that aren't in the official USVTA rules. Currently there are tracks that allow silver can motors or stock motors with lipo batteries or speed limits. While these rules aren't USVTA legal it works locally. The one thing the new rules do is help those that travel to other tracks or big events racing official VTA rules.
I personally will be helping those I race with locally to transition to the new rules. Locally we will find ways to help phase in the new rules so that we won't leave anyone behind. This is the part the I've always like most about VTA locally is that the majority are there to help out the other racers.
I think one thing that is being overlooked is that it is still up to local clubs to ultimately do what is best for local racing. No one said that local clubs couldn't further limit racers using timing advanced speed controls or 21.5 motors to be similar speeds to the 25.5 motor. A lot of clubs already have rules in place that create a level playing field in VTA that aren't in the official USVTA rules. Currently there are tracks that allow silver can motors or stock motors with lipo batteries or speed limits. While these rules aren't USVTA legal it works locally. The one thing the new rules do is help those that travel to other tracks or big events racing official VTA rules.
I personally will be helping those I race with locally to transition to the new rules. Locally we will find ways to help phase in the new rules so that we won't leave anyone behind. This is the part the I've always like most about VTA locally is that the majority are there to help out the other racers.
#7251
Tech Champion
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Rob and USVTA is trying to fix that. ONE level of spec speedo, so no one can complain about my speedo has more performance advance then yours...and NOVAK is backing this up with their data.
thats the whole point of all that I typed...I dont wont to see ppl losing money on good equipment....if you are running an ADV ESC...and dont want to run VTA, you can put in a 17.5/13.5..ect and go race still...and thats what I see ppl doing, and not just the adv esc guys...the 2-5 guys running Havoks/GTB's/Spheres will probably run a different class if the gotto buy a new motor as well....I know the adv esc racers are gone...unless they can sell that SPX,Tekin,KO.....and with the Black Dimond...who wants those esc's...so for them its lose lose situation...
change the esc, not the motor
change the esc, not the motor
You mentioned this is NOT about money....it is all about MONEY in my opinion. But if what I said was correct, the money ppl will have to spend should not be more then $50. In some case...you can get money back. I have a SP GT2 Pro to sell for $120 easy, plus my SS21.5 for another $50...buy the Novak VTA special havoc combo for $130....I have $40 left, good enough for couple new bodies or a set of tires.
Those who want to race VTA will adopt the new rule cause they know it is a good class. I highly doubt the ppl to join the VTA under the new rule will decrease by the end of next year. The rule is a lot more FAIR then before, CHEAPER then before and we have NOVAK behind this...I wish they can do that for EVERY CLASSES.
#7252
The simple solution (but hardest to tech) for the ESC issue would be to not allow timing advance/boost/turbo, and to limit what profiles other ESCs can use. Since it would be a major PITA to police this, I understand why Rob wants to limit the ESCs to a select few. One less thing to worry about to limit cheating. Tekin has stated that they would be willing to make a "VTA" version of RS firmware that had those features removed, and a special chime to indicate the type of firmware. Would this not be acceptable to all parties?
Those who already have an RS wouldn't have to buy another ESC, and could buy the new stator or motor instead.
If these timing features were removed from the ESCs, would 21.5 motors be slow enough?
Those who already have an RS wouldn't have to buy another ESC, and could buy the new stator or motor instead.
If these timing features were removed from the ESCs, would 21.5 motors be slow enough?
#7255
Tech Champion
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The simple solution (but hardest to tech) for the ESC issue would be to not allow timing advance/boost/turbo, and to limit what profiles other ESCs can use. Since it would be a major PITA to police this, I understand why Rob wants to limit the ESCs to a select few. One less thing to worry about to limit cheating. Tekin has stated that they would be willing to make a "VTA" version of RS firmware that had those features removed, and a special chime to indicate the type of firmware. Would this not be acceptable to all parties?
Those who already have an RS wouldn't have to buy another ESC, and could buy the new stator or motor instead.
If these timing features were removed from the ESCs, would 21.5 motors be slow enough?
Those who already have an RS wouldn't have to buy another ESC, and could buy the new stator or motor instead.
If these timing features were removed from the ESCs, would 21.5 motors be slow enough?
and with a hotwire, it simple to check verions and settings
best news i heard all day - please say yes Rob
#7256
Tech Champion
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Right now, Kevin Kane, Howard Lo, Jimmy Stegen, Rick Vessel, Eric Whiteside, Kris Polonczak, and a lot of other guys help with testing, and evaluating ideas. I didn't pull this out of the air, these guys helped a lot. Ultimately, it's my responsibility though.
#7258
Tech Champion
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trust me, i get the speedo - but miss the reason for the motors
if you meant this comment from rob - The 25.5 cars were about 4.-.5 off a 21.5 car, but on larger asphalt tracks this will probably be more.
i don't see that as an explanation for the change
#7260
Tech Champion
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Now....a VTA event with 80 racers, lets say 20 drivers per brand...gues how long it take for TECH..?
We will be back to year 2009...almost has NO CHANGE whatsoever.