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#1351
Tech Champion
iTrader: (2)
- L is link length
- H is horn length
- y is the vertical difference between the servo spline and the bell crank ball end when the servo horn is vertical
- θ is the servo horn angle (sorry, accidentally transposed θ and Φ between the diagram and the equations)
- d is the distance between the servo spline and bell crank ball end
Let's input some example numbers. θ of 30 degrees in both directions, assuming neutral is vertical. L is 35mm, H is 20mm, y is 15mm. d works out to be 31.62mm at neutral, 42.75mm when the vehicle is turning left, 22.76mm when the vehicle is turning right. That's 11.13mm delta left, 8.86mm delta right, demonstrating that when the horn is vertical at neutral, the left and right motion is asymmetrical.
The above math ignores the fact that the bell crank moves through the z axis, which will change the effective length of L viewed on the x/y plane. This is safe to ignore for demonstration purposes since that movement is symmetrical in both directions.
Last edited by gigaplex; 04-08-2022 at 12:36 AM.
#1356
Tech Elite
iTrader: (14)
Comparing both possibilities looks similar to this:
Darkblue and lightblue show right and left with the horn being perpendicular to the link. Movement is not perfectly symmetrical but pretty close. Dark and light orange show right and left movement with the horn being perpendicular to the chassis. The lines depart very soon and the different gradient of the lines also indicates the different speed they have.
Darkblue and lightblue show right and left with the horn being perpendicular to the link. Movement is not perfectly symmetrical but pretty close. Dark and light orange show right and left movement with the horn being perpendicular to the chassis. The lines depart very soon and the different gradient of the lines also indicates the different speed they have.
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#1357
If I don't win a race, I will blame it on improper optimal servo horn angle positioning.
#1360
I didn't win my race... but that's because a newer driver drove me right into the wall.
It's on video.
It's on video.
#1362
Found the video -
Last edited by Scott_T; 04-23-2022 at 05:52 PM. Reason: Added video link
#1363
Suspended
Congratulations to Keven Hebert & the team on the Mod TC win & overall great results at MHIC! Keven's winning Mod TC setup along with Alex Hagberg's podium setup have been added to the wiki at the top of this thread. In case you can't see the wiki, here are the links:
Also, all of the team setup sheets up until MHIC can be found at petitrc: https://site.petitrc.com/reglages/xray/setupx4/
- Keven: https://setup.teamxray.com/sheet/view?userSheetId=20345
- Alex: https://setup.teamxray.com/sheet/view?userSheetId=20340
Also, all of the team setup sheets up until MHIC can be found at petitrc: https://site.petitrc.com/reglages/xray/setupx4/
#1364
Tech Apprentice
if you soak the membranes in brake cleaner for approximately 15 mins, they’ll swell up further, put them on some kitchen/workshop towel to dry out for a few hours. The membranes we’ll return to their original size.
#1365
For me it settles that the perpendicular position is the closest but not the right one. From what I understand the two lines should be superposed, so it means that the ideal position is close to the perpendicular but should be found using the "secret symmetrical steering search" (ensuring that steering angles are identical left and right when EPA is equal).
Am I wrong?
Am I wrong?