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lexusbest 01-23-2018 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by tony6187 (Post 15137840)
Hi,once the other shock on that end of the car has the same rebound you should be ok.one thing i did notice was when you bled the shock the second time you pointed the bleed screw downwards.this would cause air to be trapped in the top of the shock.maybe try bleeding the shock again with the bleed screw up.also sometimes i need to bleed the shocks 3 or more times.just a suggestion

did it, same issue. no way to get rid of that little rebound :flaming:

lexusbest 01-23-2018 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Piles (Post 15137830)
If you were able to get rid of all rebound when the shock was off the car, the heat built up in the oil during a race would cause rebound again.
Or the quick answer, its nothing to worry about. It looks pretty good. Try to build each shock with similar rebound and you’re good to go.

i notice that sometimes after a race day the shocks get lot of rebound, other days they stay as when i rebuilded. cant understand these crappy things.

lexusbest 01-23-2018 10:37 AM

take a look to this https://youtu.be/W8raVodwZdI?t=5m32s
following from the first step. impossible to archieve same result.

buggybattle 01-23-2018 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by lexusbest (Post 15137868)
take a look to this https://youtu.be/W8raVodwZdI?t=5m32s
following from the first step. impossible to archieve same result.

Ryan is next level. His middle name is styles dude !!!

No idea how he gets them like that but gore tessmen has a little rebound in his shock building video and if it’s good enough for ty it’s good enough for anyone lol

JPAPA26 01-23-2018 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by lexusbest (Post 15137868)
take a look to this https://youtu.be/W8raVodwZdI?t=5m32s
following from the first step. impossible to archieve same result.


LOL I just watched that video earlier today.
I always have a little rebound and they all seem to be about the same distance after fully compressed

lexusbest 01-23-2018 11:12 AM

we could say its MAGIC! then

aracefan 01-23-2018 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by lexusbest (Post 15137862)
did it, same issue. no way to get rid of that little rebound :flaming:


Your shocks look great... try getting the bleed screw into the cap quicker (before you take the time to wipe off excess) that will help a little. I have about 1/2 the rebound you are getting on compression...

There will always be air in the shock - no way around it - unless they are being filled and sealed in some sort of vacuum/airless type chamber . Shocks are so much better than they used to be ( I started off road racing on the original RC10T back in 1990-1991), I would be rebuilding my shocks between heats sometimes as air would get in through the bottom o-rings fairly easily (along with tiny dirt crap-hence the need for the rebuild). You could build up a shock perfectly and it would last 1 race sometimes. Would always rebuild all 4 before the mains were run, no matter what condition they were in.

Honestly, I now go 2 or 3 race weekends before rebuilds, maybe I'm just getting old and lazy (probably the case here, really) but the shocks on any of the brands just seem more consistent than they ever used to be.

lexusbest 01-23-2018 11:22 AM

thank you all!

Krio 01-23-2018 11:23 AM

There will be a little rebound. The key is to have all the shocks with a similar amount.

Larse 01-23-2018 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by jayfinnRC (Post 15137637)
Has anyone had issue getting screws into hard arms for rear shock? I stripped out two screws, finally got one in all the way and the other I had to add one plastic spacer to keep shock from jiggling. What's trick here, anyone drilling pilot hole?

Put some black grease on the screw before screwing it in the arm, then it'll be ALOT easier

CNEPACE 01-24-2018 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by buggybattle (Post 15136516)

Your rear hub camber link (outer) are on upside down, unless of coarse you tuned it that way.

Davidka 01-24-2018 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by aracefan (Post 15137919)
Honestly, I now go 2 or 3 race weekends before rebuilds, maybe I'm just getting old and lazy (probably the case here, really) but the shocks on any of the brands just seem more consistent than they ever used to be.

I race at a fairly clean indoor track. I will have gone two winter seasons (I only race from Dec. to March) on my current shock package before even considering rebuilding. I may not still. I cannot distinguish them from a new set. In the last 10 years, I have only been in the practice of rebuilding seasonally. Use a good suspension grease to keep the seals from swelling, brush them clean every run, and they last a long time.

aracefan 01-24-2018 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by Davidka (Post 15138649)
I race at a fairly clean indoor track. I will have gone two winter seasons (I only race from Dec. to March) on my current shock package before even considering rebuilding. I may not still. I cannot distinguish them from a new set. In the last 10 years, I have only been in the practice of rebuilding seasonally. Use a good suspension grease to keep the seals from swelling, brush them clean every run, and they last a long time.

I hear ya, as I'm back into racing off-road after a 15+ year layoff. I have run my B6d now 4 race weekends and one practice/fun day and the diff was a little notchy (see previous page) so decided to do a little maintenance. Well, cleaning up and putting new grease on the thrust washer solved the notchy feeling, I decided to throw some new oil in the shocks - completely unnecessary. They were completely clean and appeared to be full from when it was built. The fit/finish and quality has come a LONG way since the first RC10, and honestly, they are roughly the same price. Probably cheaper taking inflation into account. When I bought my original RC10T back at the end of 1990, it was $199.99. Prices for kits, and the quality you get, today are great.

Davidka 01-24-2018 09:55 AM

I change my shock oil about every 4 races, either for tuning or just to keep it fresh. Never for leakage anymore. AE finally got their guide-bushing and piston sizes worked out to the job of the o/x-rings has become really easy.

eper 01-24-2018 09:07 PM

Shocks should be rebuilt often every time you shock shaft moves in and out there is a little air that gets in the shock it’s just impossible to have no air get drawn into the shock body this in turn changes the feel and performance of your shock u can get away with just bleeding the shock 1 maybe 2 times but I would recommend fresh oil u will feel a difference in consistency and performance I’d say depending on the surface you run on somewhere from every 10 runs to 17 maybe 20 you should change the oil. That’s my opinion I always feel more confident in a fresh shock and more confidence is always a good thing


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