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Phillip F 01-21-2018 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by buggybattle (Post 15135788)
10.5 is what the newbies use at my local turf track. I could see it being a bit much for low grip thought

if they are not breaking and crashing ? pretty impressive for newbies....they shouldn't be running as newbies then. If that is how it is at your track...imagine the expert class at that track...must be like pro level.

tom73 01-21-2018 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Kalio (Post 15135280)
Hoping someone can help me with ride height problems. Using the B6D kit setup (0/3 up, 0 axle height, 10mm ball stud with 3x 1mm of washers in hole B) for the stock rear hubs and stock 65mm bones and stock axles, I had no problem reaching 22mm ride height in the rear, even with white springs.

I just now installed the AE B6 aluminum hubs along with Schelle 67mm bones and Schelle 67mm conversion axles. Going by AE's instructions, I kept the 0/3 up insert for 0 axle height and used 8mm ball studs with 3x 1mm washers in hole C.

But now.. I can't even get to 24mm in the rear. I flipped the insert to 0/3 down for +3 axle height, and added an extra 1mm of washers to the ball studs, but I'm barely able to reach 22mm in the rear now if even that low, even with the shock collars all the way up. Is this normal or could I have screwed something up..?

Are you using the shortest lower spring cup? There are different sizes.

1/4milecrazy 01-21-2018 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Davidka (Post 15135710)
How does changing to B64 arms accomplish that? Are the shock mount positions different?

I would like a little more info on this as well.

jayfinnRC 01-22-2018 05:00 AM

For the person with ride height issues, there are also two different length plastic links for the end of the piston rod. If you have the wrong link and wrong cup that could put you significantly out. I'm running blue rear +3 and getting the car to 16.5/17mm for turf.

RogerM 01-22-2018 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by 1/4milecrazy (Post 15136181)
I would like a little more info on this as well.

Been running these for a while on the EOS carpet style tracks where there are lots of flat landsings.

The B64 arm is stiffer in the vertical plane and any flexing of the arm is undamped hence the spring back causes the double bounce on the less stiff B6 arms.

Other useful points for high grip is that the wheelbase becomes 3mm longer and the ARB mounting point moves out on the arm. Both these things help the car stay flatter in high speed high grip corners.

To make the most of the modification you need to space out the lower shock mounting by 4mm (make sure you use long enough screws to prevent failure of the arm at the screw holes) and use the short shock standoffs (same as the front) on the rear tower.

If you hit EVERY downslope and you have no high speed sweepers on your track your track you may not notice much of an improvement.

Hope that helps

TheLabRigs 01-22-2018 06:10 AM

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buggybattle 01-22-2018 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Phillip F (Post 15136106)
if they are not breaking and crashing ? pretty impressive for newbies....they shouldn't be running as newbies then. If that is how it is at your track...imagine the expert class at that track...must be like pro level.

Yeah zero issue feel free to watch some of the videos on the clubs youtube page. Clubman is the 10.5 class and mod is well mod. Yesterday was my first time driving in over 10 years and the 10.5 was just fine. I didn't think it was fast at all to be honest

Davidka 01-22-2018 06:31 AM

Thanks RogerM, that sounds like the B64 arm options is decidedly a carpet mod, since the dirt guys are drilling a 3rd, inner hole on the B6 arms to go softer.

buggybattle 01-22-2018 06:51 AM

New build. Only 1 race old :tire:



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D1360 01-22-2018 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 15136439)
Been running these for a while on the EOS carpet style tracks where there are lots of flat landsings.

The B64 arm is stiffer in the vertical plane and any flexing of the arm is undamped hence the spring back causes the double bounce on the less stiff B6 arms.

Other useful points for high grip is that the wheelbase becomes 3mm longer and the ARB mounting point moves out on the arm. Both these things help the car stay flatter in high speed high grip corners.

To make the most of the modification you need to space out the lower shock mounting by 4mm (make sure you use long enough screws to prevent failure of the arm at the screw holes) and use the short shock standoffs (same as the front) on the rear tower.

If you hit EVERY downslope and you have no high speed sweepers on your track your track you may not notice much of an improvement.

Hope that helps

Hmm, sounds interesting as I only race carpet during the winter.
If I would try that, what do I need?
Rear arms&hubs? (+what you wrote above for the shock mounting)

nulli 01-22-2018 10:53 AM

The gentleman who sold the B6D to me said that the diff thrust washers have a very slightly different inner diameter and I can't remember which one went first on the bolt. I measured only .05mm difference but he does know what he's talking about. I have to ask him about it tomorrow but have any of you heard about this?

Krio 01-22-2018 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by nulli (Post 15136735)
The gentleman who sold the B6D to me said that the diff thrust washers have a very slightly different inner diameter and I can't remember which one went first on the bolt. I measured only .05mm difference but he does know what he's talking about. I have to ask him about it tomorrow but have any of you heard about this?

Unless they are aftermarket, it doesn't matter. The stock ones are identical. I would call a 0.05mm difference within tolerance.

Kalio 01-22-2018 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by tom73 (Post 15136166)
Are you using the shortest lower spring cup? There are different sizes.

I'm using the 5mm spring cups per the manual. Should I be using the 0mm?

bobf24 01-22-2018 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by nulli (Post 15136735)
The gentleman who sold the B6D to me said that the diff thrust washers have a very slightly different inner diameter and I can't remember which one went first on the bolt. I measured only .05mm difference but he does know what he's talking about. I have to ask him about it tomorrow but have any of you heard about this?

Are you sure he didn't tell you that the thrust balls are a smaller diameter then the diff balls?

Reno 01-22-2018 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Kalio (Post 15136803)
I'm using the 5mm spring cups per the manual. Should I be using the 0mm?

Yes. Shortest cups and shortest shock ends. No problem getting it low. Screw the shock ends on according to manual. Measure the shock shaft.


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