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Phillip F 11-16-2017 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by KCodd (Post 15080022)
What are the advantages to running the brass bulkhead? My home track is rather large and I’m having issues with a light front end by the end of the straight. Will a brass bulkhead help or do I need a front wing?

Try a steel servo weight first then if you still need more weight add the bulkhead

Braxamus 11-16-2017 11:48 AM

nice track Mason but looks kind of small compared to what we race here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ph8rLTmykc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XW_vAtw-do

rigor 11-16-2017 12:18 PM

I'm going to the AE warehouse sale tomorrow morning. In the event I see amazing deals on a B6 or B6D, which is the cheaper route to go if I want to run laydown trans but with a ball diff?

I have never run a 2wd with gear diff before, however, the clay I typically run on is high bite to very high bite and I run slicks often, ghost pins when the track is a little older or warmer weather. Maybe I should try it with a gear diff first?

Thanks!

EDIT: Looks like B6 ball or gear diff kits are ~$40 each, and the laydown trans kit is ~$30. I know I'd always want to be running a laydown, and there is a chance I'll occasionally be running carpet track too. Seems like it just makes more sense to buy a B6 and then a ball diff kit. In the end I'd have both diff types and laydown trans.

Krio 11-16-2017 12:22 PM

B6d plus a laydown kit is cheaper than a B6 plus a ball diff. If you won't ever use the gear diff, go that route.

Jwilliams5 11-16-2017 12:43 PM

Not to mention you would need Tower and arms.

Matt Trimmings 11-16-2017 01:02 PM

Jesse, I’d go with the B6 and a ball diff....especially if you ever make it to scvrc or ricochet, save the gear for that.

Phat-Boy 11-16-2017 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by rigor (Post 15080426)
I'm going to the AE warehouse sale tomorrow morning. In the event I see amazing deals on a B6 or B6D, which is the cheaper route to go if I want to run laydown trans but with a ball diff?

I have never run a 2wd with gear diff before, however, the clay I typically run on is high bite to very high bite and I run slicks often, ghost pins when the track is a little older or warmer weather. Maybe I should try it with a gear diff first?

Thanks!

EDIT: Looks like B6 ball or gear diff kits are ~$40 each, and the laydown trans kit is ~$30. I know I'd always want to be running a laydown, and there is a chance I'll occasionally be running carpet track too. Seems like it just makes more sense to buy a B6 and then a ball diff kit. In the end I'd have both diff types and laydown trans.

Are they selling everything in warehouse or selected? What kind of saving is it worth trip? I might go if they sell b6 parts.

Kelseyrc 11-16-2017 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by rigor (Post 15080426)
I'm going to the AE warehouse sale tomorrow morning. In the event I see amazing deals on a B6 or B6D, which is the cheaper route to go if I want to run laydown trans but with a ball diff?

I have never run a 2wd with gear diff before, however, the clay I typically run on is high bite to very high bite and I run slicks often, ghost pins when the track is a little older or warmer weather. Maybe I should try it with a gear diff first?

Thanks!

EDIT: Looks like B6 ball or gear diff kits are ~$40 each, and the laydown trans kit is ~$30. I know I'd always want to be running a laydown, and there is a chance I'll occasionally be running carpet track too. Seems like it just makes more sense to buy a B6 and then a ball diff kit. In the end I'd have both diff types and laydown trans.

I would get the B6 personally. I like the feel of the gull wings more than the flat when I run mod on clay and on carpet. The only time that I use the flat arms is when I ran 17.5 clay. Also, if there is a chance you are running carpet you will need the gear diff as the traction is too high for the ball diff to handle.

TimF 11-16-2017 04:42 PM

Phat-Boy:

The Associated Warehouse sale is selected products that AE is willing to sell. Some years are better than others, Kits, Electronics, Used motors, Batteries, etc... Se their Web site for details. It is not a "fire sale" of everything but a good selection. Deals can be great to OK.

rigor 11-16-2017 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Jwilliams5 (Post 15080443)
Not to mention you would need Tower and arms.

My experience with my B5m was that I liked the gullwing arms more... but it did sometime vary on track layout and conditions. I'm not worried about getting additional arms / tower, that's expected tuning and dialing in costs.


Originally Posted by Matt Trimmings (Post 15080463)
Jesse, I’d go with the B6 and a ball diff....especially if you ever make it to scvrc or ricochet, save the gear for that.

Thanks Matt. Yes, I'm going to get up to SCVRC before the end of the year, will have some extra time off around the holidays to do so.


Originally Posted by Phat-Boy (Post 15080465)
Are they selling everything in warehouse or selected? What kind of saving is it worth trip? I might go if they sell b6 parts.

No idea, this is the first time I'm going in all these years... Which is really stupid, considering AE is a 20 minute drive from my home :p


Originally Posted by Kelseyrc (Post 15080509)
I would get the B6 personally. I like the feel of the gull wings more than the flat when I run mod on clay and on carpet. The only time that I use the flat arms is when I ran 17.5 clay. Also, if there is a chance you are running carpet you will need the gear diff as the traction is too high for the ball diff to handle.

Word. Thanks all! :tire:

Jwilliams5 11-16-2017 05:01 PM

I too loved the gull arms on the b5m. But after many hours on the new car the flat arms fit my driving style better. But as you said it’s all part of tuning. And to be expected. Good luck an hope you enjoy the new ride!

nesbot 11-17-2017 06:57 AM

I want to switch to 3x1.4mm pistons up front for a Munday type setup

Anyone try the PSM pistons?
https://www.amainhobbies.com/psm-b6-...m01787/p612576

...or just get flat ASC91628
...or a bevel edge SHL1026 (which I assume provides faster compression and rebound but still less than a full on taper)

lexusbest 11-17-2017 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by nesbot (Post 15081015)
I want to switch to 3x1.4mm pistons up front for a Munday type setup

Anyone try the PSM pistons?
https://www.amainhobbies.com/psm-b6-...m01787/p612576

...or just get flat ASC91628
...or a bevel edge SHL1026 (which I assume provides faster compression and rebound but still less than a full on taper)

https://www.amainhobbies.com/vrp-12m....4v2eu/p474914
Add one more to your list :P

nesbot 11-17-2017 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by lexusbest (Post 15081063)

Ha. When I first did the search for PSM pistons your question from a few months ago came up but I never saw an answer ! Did you try them?

Those do look interesting... I assume they would act similar to a one sided taper piston, depending on which way the taper faces (typically down to allow quicker rebound) but adjustable !

rigor 11-17-2017 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Jwilliams5 (Post 15080678)
I too loved the gull arms on the b5m. But after many hours on the new car the flat arms fit my driving style better. But as you said it’s all part of tuning. And to be expected. Good luck an hope you enjoy the new ride!

Thanks man. Scored a "damaged box" sealed box B6 this morning for a nice price! :sneaky:

Now I need to order the ball diff kit so I can get to building it after vacation next week :cool:


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