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06-07-2017, 10:46 AM - Wikipost
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Quick links to all the sections on the first page! Frequently asked questions - the most common questions you may have answered here! Aftermarket Parts - parts for the B6 and B6D Tech Tutorials- tuning guides, ball diff and shock building videos and tutorials How to's and build-specific posts Team Associated Laydown transmission conversion for B6D: Laydown conversion Instruction Manuals: B6: B6 Manual and setup sheets B6D: B6D Manual and setup sheets How to Sand and Seal carbon fiber: Sanding and sealing carbon fiber Sanding and sealing carbon fiber 2 Sanding and sealing carbon fiber 3 Sanding and sealing carbon fiber 4 Charts for Quick reference:         1) put inner bearing in hub 2) slide large shim over axle all the way up to the back of the axle 3) slide axle/bone into hub carrier 4) slide small shim onto axle through hub carrier 5) push outter bearing into hub carrier using that i'm able to put my normal male silverback gorilla wheel nut tightening job and there's no binding. in the pictures that come with the shims (the pic socket posted) it seems like they want you to slide both shims onto the axle before sliding the axle into the hub carrier and like i said, that doesn't work.  I've traditionally done the diff screw head on the left side (driver's side), but have since switched to the Right side (passenger side) regardless of transmission type (3 gear RM vs 3 gear MM and 4 gear MM). Kdub (Kurt Wenger, former AE designer) had this to say on the matter: I think I count as an authority on the matter. I always run my diff screw on the right side (when sitting "inside" the car). I take off the tire and pull the outer hinge pin to get to the adjustment screw.
The right rear is the way the AE manuals state (or used to state). It really shouldn't matter since you go around turns both left and right. 
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07-19-2016, 10:12 PM
#1771
I agree. I started with the standard B6D kit and found the further I moved the battery forward the harder I could push the car without sacrificing traction. I added the laydown and swapped the shocks to the front and still never broke the rear loose.
07-19-2016, 11:08 PM
#1772
Tech Addict
My B6 is much lighter than my B5MFL that I setup for outdoors only. The b5 had a 4 gear and 25g brass C, a heavier alum front bulkhead. Plus the b6 weighs an easy 25-30? Less out of the kit.
A lighter car will always need a lighter shock package. The b6 designs makes way more grip front and rear though!
The 1 outdoor track I ran has zero clay in it. It's very soft black dirt. Which means you need mechanical grip and a heavier car typically runs better... as well as a 4 gear tranny.
I'd say start with what you know but keep what ive said in mind and maybe try it!
A lighter car will always need a lighter shock package. The b6 designs makes way more grip front and rear though!
The 1 outdoor track I ran has zero clay in it. It's very soft black dirt. Which means you need mechanical grip and a heavier car typically runs better... as well as a 4 gear tranny.
I'd say start with what you know but keep what ive said in mind and maybe try it!
I was just suprised of how much softer your car is... Problem for our track is, if it's sligthly wet you have goodgrip. If the clay dries you have a hard packed surface, still Nice Grip.... But if you drive outside the perfect line... Lots of loose stuff and no Grip
07-20-2016, 03:14 AM
#1773
Tech Rookie
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Last edited by MatthieuL; 07-20-2016 at 03:24 AM.
07-20-2016, 03:36 AM
#1774
Tech Apprentice
07-20-2016, 04:21 AM
#1775
07-20-2016, 04:33 AM
#1776
Are the spacers for the b5m rear axle the same spacers for the b5m gear diff AND MIP b5m pucks diff in the b6?
http://miponline.com/store/mip16085.html
https://www.amainhobbies.com/team-as...c91605/p462723
Are these the same thing, material aside?
http://miponline.com/store/mip16085.html
https://www.amainhobbies.com/team-as...c91605/p462723
Are these the same thing, material aside?
I built my B6 with the pucks from my B5M, I used the spacers for the gear diff between the bearings and ball diff, but I cant figure out where the smaller ones would go. I was thinking it would be to move the axle closer to the diff but they look too small for that. The pucks are barely inside the diff outdrives, is this going to be ok?
Also, What length flat sensor wire should I get.
07-20-2016, 04:37 AM
#1777
Tech Rookie
I'm a little confused where the little shims go?
I built my B6 with the pucks from my B5M, I used the spacers for the gear diff between the bearings and ball diff, but I cant figure out where the smaller ones would go. I was thinking it would be to move the axle closer to the diff but they look too small for that. The pucks are barely inside the diff outdrives, is this going to be ok?
I built my B6 with the pucks from my B5M, I used the spacers for the gear diff between the bearings and ball diff, but I cant figure out where the smaller ones would go. I was thinking it would be to move the axle closer to the diff but they look too small for that. The pucks are barely inside the diff outdrives, is this going to be ok?
07-20-2016, 08:15 AM
#1779
07-20-2016, 09:25 AM
#1780
I'm a little confused where the little shims go?
I built my B6 with the pucks from my B5M, I used the spacers for the gear diff between the bearings and ball diff, but I cant figure out where the smaller ones would go. I was thinking it would be to move the axle closer to the diff but they look too small for that. The pucks are barely inside the diff outdrives, is this going to be ok?
Also, What length flat sensor wire should I get.
I built my B6 with the pucks from my B5M, I used the spacers for the gear diff between the bearings and ball diff, but I cant figure out where the smaller ones would go. I was thinking it would be to move the axle closer to the diff but they look too small for that. The pucks are barely inside the diff outdrives, is this going to be ok?
Also, What length flat sensor wire should I get.
Google AE axle shims. There is a guide that will show you exactly where to put the four axle shims.
07-20-2016, 10:59 AM
#1781
I guess I'm also asking what does hub height affect other than bone plunge (and thus forward traction)... this is kind of a new tuning aid for me
07-20-2016, 11:04 AM
#1782
Tech Addict
Can anyone give me the weight distribution of a stock B6D (g and %?)? Want to compare it to my B5M who is settep up for real dirt 
Want to achieve something in the area of the B5M and want to know if I have to change a lot at the B6D + Brass/weight stuff or 4g...
Dont need it on 0.1g....
(4200 Shorty, Standard Sized Servo)
Want to achieve something in the area of the B5M and want to know if I have to change a lot at the B6D + Brass/weight stuff or 4g...Dont need it on 0.1g....
(4200 Shorty, Standard Sized Servo)
07-20-2016, 11:42 AM
#1784
07-20-2016, 11:47 AM
#1785
Do the standup and laydown transmission differ in outdrive height? I noticed the B6 lists kit hub height at +3 and B6D at +1, but not sure if this tuning difference is due to different outdrive height (and thus bone plunge), or some other reason.
I guess I'm also asking what does hub height affect other than bone plunge (and thus forward traction)... this is kind of a new tuning aid for me
I guess I'm also asking what does hub height affect other than bone plunge (and thus forward traction)... this is kind of a new tuning aid for me
The B6D manual says to put the hub in the 0 position (all the way down) which is 0 insert "up". It's also the standard B5 height.
Raising It affects plunge mostly like you know, it gives the rear end more
Support on higher grip. It tends to free the car up too much on anything but high grip.
+1 has been great on med-high grip so far.
The outdrive height on both are the same as far as I remember. The B6 manual setup is geared more for carpet/astro rather than high grip dirt.