26LikesTLR 22 3.0 Race Kit Thread!
08-23-2016, 10:37 AM - Wikipost
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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.
Franks response: Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root). Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either. I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'. K.King Something I made, pretty basic. Just to give people an idea. 
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11-22-2017, 12:20 PM
#4667
What type of surface do you race on? Do you have any problems with great wheel spin when you apply the throttle? What motor size are running?
11-22-2017, 05:28 PM
#4669
11-23-2017, 01:00 AM
#4670
Tlr 22 3.0 as a carpet/astroturf buggy
I just bought my kit but now a new indoor carpet track has opened near me and just found out that hobbytown in Tucson az has laid down astroturf as their racing surface. My question is the 22 3.0 a capable carpet/astroturf buggy without heavily modifying it? I was planning on installing new gear diff but that's about it besides tuning it. Any help would be helpful. Thanks
11-23-2017, 01:59 AM
#4671
Yeah you can race it just fine. Although it's not the latest and greatest. But then again are you a fast and consistent driver? If not you really will not notice much of a difference.
11-23-2017, 04:05 AM
#4672
Tech Adept
iTrader: (1)
I currently have the Exotek laydown in her. I had the original 3.0 SR gearbox in her. Same install.
I purchsed 4.0 stiffzel arms, I purchased an extra front sway bar kit, which included the "plastic" front camber assembly,
I flipped the shocks around to the front of the new rear arms, you have to install spacers. I used the original shock mounts, loctite the nut on.
I screwed two ball studs into the back of the rear arms.
Take a Dremel and cut the two ends off the new front camber plate, YOU WANT THE ENDS AND YOU WANT IT WITH THE PRE CUT SLOTS ALREADY IN THE TIPS, so cut more trim later. But you need the sway bar grooves.
Unscrew the 2 rear camber plate screws, get longer ones, slide the two ends onto the camber plate, install sway bars on rear of arms. Use links included in kit.
11-23-2017, 04:24 AM
#4673
Tech Adept
iTrader: (1)
I just bought my kit but now a new indoor carpet track has opened near me and just found out that hobbytown in Tucson az has laid down astroturf as their racing surface. My question is the 22 3.0 a capable carpet/astroturf buggy without heavily modifying it? I was planning on installing new gear diff but that's about it besides tuning it. Any help would be helpful. Thanks
FIRST get a gear diff, you will destroy the ball diff in a short period of time. Losi makes a pre built one for under $30 which works just fine.
Brass weights under servo, under batter, under electronics. IF YOU HAVE A 3.0 SR then The tlr weight plate doesn't fit directly under the electronics, u need to grind it to fit into the electronics slot.
If you install these weights you really don't need the brass front bulkhead.
Springs We run AE PURPLE front, AE BLUE rear. You can get Losi black and pink, but for our track the Ae work better.
Shock Pistons 1.6, 1.7
Shock oil we started at AE 40 frt, AE 32.5 rear
Front sway bar kit.
FRONT AN REAR HRC MOUNTS.
A laydown would be great at some point, Exotek makes a kit including battery hold down, that your 3gear internals just drop straight in.
I found as I had to replace "worn pieces" (crash damage$) I swapped front parts out for 4.0 suspension pieces. Bolt right on.
In the past 4 months I have swapped the entire front over to 4.0 and the rear arms.
Have front and rear sway bars. Put a Exotek laydown in.
For me she's just fine. Pm if you want photos.
11-23-2017, 08:11 AM
#4674
I run mine on turf surfaces now just fine, with some mods you can make as you go along.
FIRST get a gear diff, you will destroy the ball diff in a short period of time. Losi makes a pre built one for under $30 which works just fine.
Brass weights under servo, under batter, under electronics. IF YOU HAVE A 3.0 SR then The tlr weight plate doesn't fit directly under the electronics, u need to grind it to fit into the electronics slot.
If you install these weights you really don't need the brass front bulkhead.
Springs We run AE PURPLE front, AE BLUE rear. You can get Losi black and pink, but for our track the Ae work better.
Shock Pistons 1.6, 1.7
Shock oil we started at AE 40 frt, AE 32.5 rear
Front sway bar kit.
FRONT AN REAR HRC MOUNTS.
A laydown would be great at some point, Exotek makes a kit including battery hold down, that your 3gear internals just drop straight in.
I found as I had to replace "worn pieces" (crash damage$) I swapped front parts out for 4.0 suspension pieces. Bolt right on.
In the past 4 months I have swapped the entire front over to 4.0 and the rear arms.
Have front and rear sway bars. Put a Exotek laydown in.
For me she's just fine. Pm if you want photos.
FIRST get a gear diff, you will destroy the ball diff in a short period of time. Losi makes a pre built one for under $30 which works just fine.
Brass weights under servo, under batter, under electronics. IF YOU HAVE A 3.0 SR then The tlr weight plate doesn't fit directly under the electronics, u need to grind it to fit into the electronics slot.
If you install these weights you really don't need the brass front bulkhead.
Springs We run AE PURPLE front, AE BLUE rear. You can get Losi black and pink, but for our track the Ae work better.
Shock Pistons 1.6, 1.7
Shock oil we started at AE 40 frt, AE 32.5 rear
Front sway bar kit.
FRONT AN REAR HRC MOUNTS.
A laydown would be great at some point, Exotek makes a kit including battery hold down, that your 3gear internals just drop straight in.
I found as I had to replace "worn pieces" (crash damage$) I swapped front parts out for 4.0 suspension pieces. Bolt right on.
In the past 4 months I have swapped the entire front over to 4.0 and the rear arms.
Have front and rear sway bars. Put a Exotek laydown in.
For me she's just fine. Pm if you want photos.
11-23-2017, 08:13 AM
#4675
Happy Thanksgiving
Happy Thanksgiving to all my fellow TLR racers. Be safe
11-24-2017, 07:30 PM
#4677
I just bought my kit but now a new indoor carpet track has opened near me and just found out that hobbytown in Tucson az has laid down astroturf as their racing surface. My question is the 22 3.0 a capable carpet/astroturf buggy without heavily modifying it? I was planning on installing new gear diff but that's about it besides tuning it. Any help would be helpful. Thanks
11-28-2017, 03:56 AM
#4679
Can someone please direct me to a off-road carpet setup sheet,
11-28-2017, 04:38 AM
#4680