26LikesTLR 22 3.0 Race Kit Thread!
08-23-2016, 10:37 AM - Wikipost
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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.
Franks response: Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root). Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either. I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'. K.King Something I made, pretty basic. Just to give people an idea. 
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12-20-2017, 07:53 AM
#4696
Hello everyone, I got a few questions 
First of all: is the 22 3.0 still worth to get? I could get one off eBay in a decent condition for around 260 € including ESC, motor and quite a few spare parts. Would that be a good deal?
Second thing: I mostly run 1/8 electric buggy and would drive the 22 just in the "off-season" (thanks to the german weather...) and want something different from the 4 WD of my Mugen. Some guys at my local track had a 2 WD and now they say it's bad and switched to a 4 WD 1/10 buggy. Is 2 WD really that bad and hard to handle as they say? I actually can't believe it and I'm somehow the type of guy who can drive with whatever you give me
Don't want to sound conceited, it's just what I experienced since I started racing this year.
Oh and also: the 22 3.0 I found has a Sky RC Toro combo (barely heard of it here in Germany), is it any good?
Would be nice if someone could answer me
Kind regards from Germany,
Jonathan
First of all: is the 22 3.0 still worth to get? I could get one off eBay in a decent condition for around 260 € including ESC, motor and quite a few spare parts. Would that be a good deal?
Second thing: I mostly run 1/8 electric buggy and would drive the 22 just in the "off-season" (thanks to the german weather...) and want something different from the 4 WD of my Mugen. Some guys at my local track had a 2 WD and now they say it's bad and switched to a 4 WD 1/10 buggy. Is 2 WD really that bad and hard to handle as they say? I actually can't believe it and I'm somehow the type of guy who can drive with whatever you give me
Don't want to sound conceited, it's just what I experienced since I started racing this year.Oh and also: the 22 3.0 I found has a Sky RC Toro combo (barely heard of it here in Germany), is it any good?
Would be nice if someone could answer me
Kind regards from Germany,
Jonathan
12-20-2017, 12:04 PM
#4697
Hello everyone, I got a few questions
First of all: is the 22 3.0 still worth to get? I could get one off eBay in a decent condition for around 260 € including ESC, motor and quite a few spare parts. Would that be a good deal?
Second thing: I mostly run 1/8 electric buggy and would drive the 22 just in the "off-season" (thanks to the german weather...) and want something different from the 4 WD of my Mugen. Some guys at my local track had a 2 WD and now they say it's bad and switched to a 4 WD 1/10 buggy. Is 2 WD really that bad and hard to handle as they say? I actually can't believe it and I'm somehow the type of guy who can drive with whatever you give me Don't want to sound conceited, it's just what I experienced since I started racing this year.
Oh and also: the 22 3.0 I found has a Sky RC Toro combo (barely heard of it here in Germany), is it any good?
Would be nice if someone could answer me
Kind regards from Germany,
Jonathan
First of all: is the 22 3.0 still worth to get? I could get one off eBay in a decent condition for around 260 € including ESC, motor and quite a few spare parts. Would that be a good deal?
Second thing: I mostly run 1/8 electric buggy and would drive the 22 just in the "off-season" (thanks to the german weather...) and want something different from the 4 WD of my Mugen. Some guys at my local track had a 2 WD and now they say it's bad and switched to a 4 WD 1/10 buggy. Is 2 WD really that bad and hard to handle as they say? I actually can't believe it and I'm somehow the type of guy who can drive with whatever you give me
Don't want to sound conceited, it's just what I experienced since I started racing this year.Oh and also: the 22 3.0 I found has a Sky RC Toro combo (barely heard of it here in Germany), is it any good?
Would be nice if someone could answer me
Kind regards from Germany,
Jonathan
If running carpet or similar high traction, does the 3.0 you’re looking at already include laydown transmission, gear diff, sway bars, adjustability to raise diff/axles, mount rear shocks in front of tower/rear arms?
If running stock on dirt/clay, does it come with lighter pieces like slipper eliminator, lighter diff and axles?
3.0 is still a competitive car but may need more pieces to be competitive on certain surfaces or types of tracks. That being the case, you’ll want to compare the cost of buying the used 3.0 as equipped against the standard 4.0 kit versus the 4.0 spec racer.
12-20-2017, 12:40 PM
#4698
The surface is going to be carpet and the track is kinda small. The motor is a 7.5T one afaik. The seller was racing on carpet as well so I guess the setup is made for that kind of surface already.
Well the 22 4.0 is around 350 € here in Germany (for the kit alone) and I don't want to spend that much money for a car that I'm going to race for like 2-3 months, so I want to keep the costs as low as possible
1/8 is still going to be my main class and the Losi would be my secondary "off-season-fun-car".
Thanks for your quick reply!
Well the 22 4.0 is around 350 € here in Germany (for the kit alone) and I don't want to spend that much money for a car that I'm going to race for like 2-3 months, so I want to keep the costs as low as possible
1/8 is still going to be my main class and the Losi would be my secondary "off-season-fun-car".
Thanks for your quick reply!
12-20-2017, 03:46 PM
#4699
Tech Master
iTrader: (204)
Sounds to me you have answered your own question and really your doing what with this car,
So in my opinion any car you get will satisfy that off-season need, so granted it may not have the latest greatest parts on it, it's not your primary vehicle of choice, so take it and go have some FUN with it, as 2wd will make you a better driver, so you might want to rethink the motor
So in my opinion any car you get will satisfy that off-season need, so granted it may not have the latest greatest parts on it, it's not your primary vehicle of choice, so take it and go have some FUN with it, as 2wd will make you a better driver, so you might want to rethink the motor
12-21-2017, 04:06 AM
#4700
Okay, thanks
What exactly do you mean with the motor, should I take a less powerfull one? I only started driving in January this year and I barely know anything about the 1/10 motors.
Thanks for your help!
What exactly do you mean with the motor, should I take a less powerfull one? I only started driving in January this year and I barely know anything about the 1/10 motors.
Thanks for your help!
12-21-2017, 06:31 AM
#4701
Tech Master
iTrader: (204)
So I would suggest a few, either 17.5, 13.5, or even a 10.5, but you will find that those will be plenty fast for your liking, plus less broken parts
12-27-2017, 07:47 AM
#4703
Tech Master
iTrader: (204)
I know they had some for the older car the 1.0 & 2.0 but did not have them set up for the VLA arms, so are you just pulling them out of the plastic or is this after a big hit, also have you tried longer ball studs as I had that happen and realized that it was short threads
12-27-2017, 08:22 AM
#4704
I know they had some for the older car the 1.0 & 2.0 but did not have them set up for the VLA arms, so are you just pulling them out of the plastic or is this after a big hit, also have you tried longer ball studs as I had that happen and realized that it was short threads
12-31-2017, 04:08 PM
#4705
Will the 22 4.0 front spindles work on the 3.0 and do I also need the 4.0 caster block? 0° or 5° caster block?
12-31-2017, 04:13 PM
#4706
01-07-2018, 02:32 AM
#4707
I just bought a 22 3.0 and I'm planning on buying the Exotek aluminum laydown tranny for it,does anyone know if I'll be able to mount the rear shocks on the front of the arms withh this setup?
I was thinking of using the X Factory infinity kit,unless there are TLR parts that I could use that would move the shocks to the front of the arms?
Thanks!
I was thinking of using the X Factory infinity kit,unless there are TLR parts that I could use that would move the shocks to the front of the arms?
Thanks!
01-07-2018, 07:54 AM
#4708
I just bought a 22 3.0 and I'm planning on buying the Exotek aluminum laydown tranny for it,does anyone know if I'll be able to mount the rear shocks on the front of the arms withh this setup?
I was thinking of using the X Factory infinity kit,unless there are TLR parts that I could use that would move the shocks to the front of the arms?
Thanks!
I was thinking of using the X Factory infinity kit,unless there are TLR parts that I could use that would move the shocks to the front of the arms?
Thanks!
01-07-2018, 11:11 AM
#4709
4 gear trans
Hi Everyone. I just got a new in the box 22 3.0 , ( New compared to my 1.0).
When i run offroad its on a clay track with medium to high traction. Dirtwebs and positrons work good there. The kit comes with a stand up 3 and 4 gear transmission case , Is there any good reason to use the 4 gear case?
So Im a onroad guy mainly for the last ten years So for Me easy to drive would be better then the fastest off the line. A car that would have rear traction is I guess more important then the fastest acceleration.
When i run offroad its on a clay track with medium to high traction. Dirtwebs and positrons work good there. The kit comes with a stand up 3 and 4 gear transmission case , Is there any good reason to use the 4 gear case?
So Im a onroad guy mainly for the last ten years So for Me easy to drive would be better then the fastest off the line. A car that would have rear traction is I guess more important then the fastest acceleration.
01-07-2018, 01:01 PM
#4710
Tech Master
iTrader: (204)
Hi Everyone. I just got a new in the box 22 3.0 , ( New compared to my 1.0).
When i run offroad its on a clay track with medium to high traction. Dirtwebs and positrons work good there. The kit comes with a stand up 3 and 4 gear transmission case , Is there any good reason to use the 4 gear case?
So Im a onroad guy mainly for the last ten years So for Me easy to drive would be better then the fastest off the line. A car that would have rear traction is I guess more important then the fastest acceleration.
When i run offroad its on a clay track with medium to high traction. Dirtwebs and positrons work good there. The kit comes with a stand up 3 and 4 gear transmission case , Is there any good reason to use the 4 gear case?
So Im a onroad guy mainly for the last ten years So for Me easy to drive would be better then the fastest off the line. A car that would have rear traction is I guess more important then the fastest acceleration.