26LikesTLR 22 3.0 Race Kit Thread!
08-23-2016, 10:37 AM - Wikipost
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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.
Franks response: Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root). Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either. I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'. K.King Something I made, pretty basic. Just to give people an idea. 
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03-26-2016, 03:35 PM
#2476
Hi All,
What size pinion should start with 13.5t motor with no timing...??
What size pinion should start with 13.5t motor with no timing...??
03-26-2016, 07:47 PM
#2477
03-27-2016, 01:39 AM
#2478
Hi Frank,
What is the part number for these hubs??
Thanks in advance.
Rob
What is the part number for these hubs??
Thanks in advance.
Rob
Raises the rear axle by 3mm, reducing the amount of bone plunge. The frees up the rear of the cars to car more corner speed.
Originally developed for the 22-4, we found these hubs to increase performance for the 22 3.0 on higher grip carpet and Astro tracks.
Aluminum chassis, machined gear cases, motor plate, carbon battery strap, body, aluminum rear hubs, and all the hardware. I think you'll find it is by far the best "lay down" value.
Originally developed for the 22-4, we found these hubs to increase performance for the 22 3.0 on higher grip carpet and Astro tracks.
Aluminum chassis, machined gear cases, motor plate, carbon battery strap, body, aluminum rear hubs, and all the hardware. I think you'll find it is by far the best "lay down" value.
03-27-2016, 06:54 AM
#2479
03-27-2016, 07:42 AM
#2480
70/25 should be a safe setup temp wise, but I expect it to be a little lacking in power especially if you have any decently long straights.
-W
03-27-2016, 09:52 AM
#2481
Thanks......
03-27-2016, 11:58 AM
#2483
Tech Initiate
Without posting my full setup, although I can do that later, my inside rear tire is lifting during hard corners. This is on a high-grip carpet track. What is going on with the car? Too much weight transfer to the front outside? What types of things would I do to address this?
My first thought is stiffer front springs. Then I'm just guessing at thicker rear oil, maybe less droop in the rear.
Thanks!
My first thought is stiffer front springs. Then I'm just guessing at thicker rear oil, maybe less droop in the rear.
Thanks!
During my last test day I found moving the rear bottom shock mounting locations inwards reduced it though
03-27-2016, 02:10 PM
#2484
I'm also thinking driving style can eliminate it. Following the recommendation of the local fast guy, I increased drag brake to 30% for carpet. I think I'm coming into corners hotter, slowing down hard, then whipping the back around. If I slowed down in a little more controlled way and rounded the corner carrying my momentum (rather than stop, turn, punch it), I probably wouldn't be lifting my inside rear.
03-27-2016, 02:32 PM
#2485
Without posting my full setup, although I can do that later, my inside rear tire is lifting during hard corners. This is on a high-grip carpet track. What is going on with the car? Too much weight transfer to the front outside? What types of things would I do to address this?
My first thought is stiffer front springs. Then I'm just guessing at thicker rear oil, maybe less droop in the rear.
Thanks!
My first thought is stiffer front springs. Then I'm just guessing at thicker rear oil, maybe less droop in the rear.
Thanks!
03-27-2016, 06:24 PM
#2486
03-28-2016, 08:56 AM
#2487
Last night I ran 13.5 buggy with my 3.0. ESC in blinky and ~25 degrees timing on the endbell with a Tekin Gen2 motor. Gearing was 70/26. After 6-8 minutes of running (warmup/race) motor temps were 150-165, starting to get warm, but still acceptable.
70/25 should be a safe setup temp wise, but I expect it to be a little lacking in power especially if you have any decently long straights.
-W
70/25 should be a safe setup temp wise, but I expect it to be a little lacking in power especially if you have any decently long straights.
-W
