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Wildcat1971 08-16-2013 04:27 PM

yeah, I am with you jake on the rpm's binding. \

thecman26 08-16-2013 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Grasschopper (Post 12454403)
No I can adjust it...my confusion is that the kit setup is supposed to be -1 front and rear and I'm at -2 in the rear (not so bad and I'm going to go more for my track anyway) and -5 in the front. Why am I getting -5 in the front? Really the question is: is the manual just wrong on the front camber length or might I have some other issue. If built per the manual should I not get -1 front and rear?

Why can't you adjust them? :confused:
Its easy, take a turnbuckle wrench and adjust them. The manual is only guiding you to build the buggy. Fine adjusting is always to be expected. All ya need is a turnbuckle wrench and a camber guage. Make sure you set the ride height in full running gear condition, THEN adjust away!

Wildcat1971 08-16-2013 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Grasschopper (Post 12454251)
Anyone?

if you measured 32mm between the ball cups and used the manuals camber locations with the AE cups, then I dunno.

YankeeFan123 08-16-2013 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by thecman26 (Post 12454801)
Why can't you adjust them? :confused:
Its easy, take a turnbuckle wrench and adjust them. The manual is only guiding you to build the buggy. Fine adjusting is always to be expected. All ya need is a turnbuckle wrench and a camber guage. Make sure you set the ride height in full running gear condition, THEN adjust away!

This is what I was trying to get at..

Jmuck69 08-16-2013 06:27 PM

For my JC cups I put the turnbuckle into a drill and using really low speed I would screw in the turnbuckle in and out 4 times into the corresponding ballcup. Adjustments are smooth and doesn't pop them off.

Wild Cherry 08-16-2013 06:32 PM

Gosh , sure is a lot of experts at threading ball cups on ....:lol:

Grasschopper 08-16-2013 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by thecman26 (Post 12454801)
Why can't you adjust them? :confused:
Its easy, take a turnbuckle wrench and adjust them. The manual is only guiding you to build the buggy. Fine adjusting is always to be expected. All ya need is a turnbuckle wrench and a camber guage. Make sure you set the ride height in full running gear condition, THEN adjust away!


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 12454896)
if you measured 32mm between the ball cups and used the manuals camber locations with the AE cups, then I dunno.


Originally Posted by YankeeFan123 (Post 12454927)
This is what I was trying to get at..

I didn't mistype there, I said I can adjust it. I hear everyone talking about when they have issues they go back to the kit setup. I got this car used so I figured pull out the manual and make the linkages to the kit specs and I should wind up with the kit setup. My issues is that when I do that I wind up NOWHERE near the kit setup and I'm wondering why that could be.

When you guys have built this kit did you wind up with front camber that was WAY off? My guess is no. So for me that begs the question: why is mine way off when I build it to the kit setup?

Wildcat1971 08-16-2013 06:39 PM

I can only guess that the previous owner may have cut the cups. I would measure mine, but I am using rpm cups

Wildcat1971 08-16-2013 06:43 PM

with my rpm cups I am 35.5mm between the cups. shichis abort 3 threads showing

Bubonic-X 08-16-2013 06:59 PM

I can only guess that your using the wrong turnbuckles. they are too short.
I'm gonna assume that you don't realize that the turn buckles have reverse threads on one side so that when you turn the turn buckle in the middle the ball cups well get wider or shorter as you turn it.
try to adjust the turn buckle until the tire is straight up and down if you never get to that point and the turn buckle falls out of the ball cup the turn buckle is not the correct length.

YankeeFan123 08-16-2013 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Grasschopper (Post 12455124)
I didn't mistype there, I said I can adjust it. I hear everyone talking about when they have issues they go back to the kit setup. I got this car used so I figured pull out the manual and make the linkages to the kit specs and I should wind up with the kit setup. My issues is that when I do that I wind up NOWHERE near the kit setup and I'm wondering why that could be.

When you guys have built this kit did you wind up with front camber that was WAY off? My guess is no. So for me that begs the question: why is mine way off when I build it to the kit setup?

What ballcups are you using?

Wildcat1971 08-16-2013 07:10 PM

he said he bought the car used, since the camber locations and washers are correct, I would assume the cups are the issue and maybe not the stock one. just spit ballin

Cridd 08-16-2013 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Grasschopper (Post 12454403)
Yes I am.



No I can adjust it...my confusion is that the kit setup is supposed to be -1 front and rear and I'm at -2 in the rear (not so bad and I'm going to go more for my track anyway) and -5 in the front. Why am I getting -5 in the front? Really the question is: is the manual just wrong on the front camber length or might I have some other issue. If built per the manual should I not get -1 front and rear?

Gives a starting point, adjust it as needed and your good.

Grasschopper 08-17-2013 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 12455127)
I can only guess that the previous owner may have cut the cups. I would measure mine, but I am using rpm cups

No they aren't cut. It's really odd. The 4.1WC manual measures to the center of the cups rather than the ends of them and I double checked them against those numbers. The links are the correct lengths


Originally Posted by Bubonic-X (Post 12455177)
I can only guess that you're using the wrong turnbuckles, they are too short.
I'm gonna assume that you don't realize that the turnbuckles have reverse threads on one side so that when you turn the turnbuckle in the middle the ball cups well get wider or shorter as you turn it.
Try to adjust the turnbuckle until the tire is straight up and down if you never get to that point and the turnbuckle falls out of the ball cup the turnbuckle is not the correct length.

:rolleyes:

Nope they are the blue FT turnbuckles and I measured them...they are right. And yes I do know about the left hand threads and the notch in the turnbuckles are aligned to the left of the car per the user manual.

I know what I'm doing and I know how to get it to a setup that I want. Again my concern is that there is some other issue, and if there is I want to get that corrected so that the car functions properly.

I guess I'll see how this all turns out on my T4.1 to B4.2XL conversion as that is basically a kit build at this point and will have a lot of new parts. :tire:

t0p_sh0tta 08-17-2013 05:46 AM

LOSA6016

THIS is the answer to all of your ballcup problems. The ballcup discussion seems to be endless.

Buy these (good luck finding them), grease your threads (I use black grease), and stop crashing, because you'll start tearing U-braces and arms up.

These WILL NOT pop off. They're actually a PITA to remove. The only other ballcups that I've used, and liked, were the AE cups and Schumacher's. RPMs bind too much.


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