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Old 01-17-2013 | 06:25 PM
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well one thing I did learn (the hard way) is that no amount of chassis tuning will help you if you don't have tires dialed in.
Running mc suburbs.
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Old 01-17-2013 | 06:36 PM
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well one thing I did learn (the hard way) is that no amount of chassis tuning will help you if you don't have tires dialed in.
90% of the setup
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Old 01-17-2013 | 07:00 PM
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Running mc suburbs.
If it's a clay based track and guys run MC Subs, try Gold Barcodes too. They are similar. Use AKA foam in everything.
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Old 01-17-2013 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Barry
If it's a clay based track and guys run MC Subs, try Gold Barcodes too. They are similar. Use AKA foam in everything.
I will order some and the AKAs. Racing on Saturday. Right now running Proline closed cell insert. Also going to try green spring in front and go a little stiffer.
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Old 01-17-2013 | 07:58 PM
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I will order some and the AKAs. Racing on Saturday. Right now running Proline closed cell insert. Also going to try green spring in front and go a little stiffer.
Going to have to be bar codes with proline cc inserts. Amain has aka on back order.
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Old 01-17-2013 | 08:05 PM
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What is the difference between the Viper Esc VTX10 and VTX10R?
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Old 01-17-2013 | 08:17 PM
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the R is for 4wd and below 6.5T motors. I use the reg Black Edition in my truck and buggy with the VST motors ( 7.5T and 8.5T)
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Old 01-17-2013 | 08:39 PM
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I will order some and the AKAs. Racing on Saturday. Right now running Proline closed cell insert. Also going to try green spring in front and go a little stiffer.
Everyone has their own experience, but to me, the AKA foam are WAYYYY too firm for 2wd buggy. Pro-line closed cell breaks down a bit faster but provides a ton more traction than the AKA around here. I have talked to a lot of racers and for the most part, pro-line is the foam of choice...with that being said, i would get the same tire, and try both foams. Whichever you like, well there you go.
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Originally Posted by B.A. Racer
Everyone has their own experience, but to me, the AKA foam are WAYYYY too firm for 2wd buggy. Pro-line closed cell breaks down a bit faster but provides a ton more traction than the AKA around here. I have talked to a lot of racers and for the most part, pro-line is the foam of choice...with that being said, i would get the same tire, and try both foams. Whichever you like, well there you go.
We run red aka foam in 2wd buggy on a pretty slick track (at times) here, but when they're new and the track IS slick, it's a hand full. Once they run in, they're the best thing since sliced bread when the track is wet, omg they're hard to beat.

What I suggest doing is this. Re-use the red foams once. Put those in fresh tires and run fresh tires when the traction is low due to lack of moisture. Use new foams when the track is wet.

That sounds like a plan, right? Well... it's a bit complex for club racing, especially multiple classes, so what I do is I break down the aka foams by hand first. I really work the foam hard before I put it in the tire. It makes a huge difference. They work everywhere decently at first then and wear in really fast and still last. Best trick for those red foams.

Heck, try standing on em too.
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Originally Posted by B.A. Racer
Everyone has their own experience, but to me, the AKA foam are WAYYYY too firm for 2wd buggy. Pro-line closed cell breaks down a bit faster but provides a ton more traction than the AKA around here. I have talked to a lot of racers and for the most part, pro-line is the foam of choice...with that being said, i would get the same tire, and try both foams. Whichever you like, well there you go.
Thanks, going to try the bar codes and even the panther clay buggy tire and see how they do. Any break it suggestions on the bar codes and panthers?
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http://www.rcplanet.com/Associated_R..._p/asc9041.htm

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Old 01-17-2013 | 08:53 PM
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Thanks, going to try the bar codes and even the panther clay buggy tire and see how they do. Any break it suggestions on the bar codes and panthers?
some will say drive slowly on the street in figure eights. i just run them on the track and do some donuts on the track to scuff them in really.
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Old 01-17-2013 | 09:14 PM
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Thanks, going to try the bar codes and even the panther clay buggy tire and see how they do. Any break it suggestions on the bar codes and panthers?
Label your tires and don't rotate them. Keep them directional.

My labeling would look like this: L o R, brand foam, compound, date

so a set of MC Suburbs would be:

Left AKA MC 1/17/13

I put the date on there so if I have 2 sets, I can keep them matched up.
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Old 01-17-2013 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by B.A. Racer
some will say drive slowly on the street in figure eights. i just run them on the track and do some donuts on the track to scuff them in really.
best way to do it is on the track but if you are in a bind, throw some buggy grip on them and run them in the street. Be careful cause buggy grip will accelerate the wear. Don't do tight or fast turns. Just up and back or big looping figure 8's

what you are looking for is a tapered edge. Run your finger around the tire (not across). Do it both ways. When you feel one direction smooth and one direction rough (picture a saw blade) then you are good.
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Old 01-18-2013 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Cridd
Any break it suggestions on the bar codes and panthers?

The Bar codes perform best when they have 45degree bevel on the blocks .


We scuff them in when the track is abrasive , usually takes a couple packs .


If your track is not abrasive ?
Will take many more packs and when your done the insert will be worn out .

A short cut we use is to scuff the tire lightly with 100 grit sand paper by hand .
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