RC10T4.1 Thread.
02-20-2012, 10:01 AM
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FT T4 = all carbon parts, FT T4.1 = new plastic parts
FT T4's never came with the new plastic.
FT T4's never came with the new plastic.
02-20-2012, 10:05 AM
#602
I tried to find a thread on the T4 and had no luck, so I thought I would post my question here in the T4.1 thread. I have a later version of the FT T4 and a FT T4.1. I am trying to figure out if my T4 has the carbon chassis. I read somewhere that AE switched to the plastic chassis before the T4.1 came out - is this true? I also heard that all FT T4 kits had the carbon chassis, and the switch to plastic only happened with the T4.1 kits. My T4 chassis is very different from my T4.1 chassis, it's more of a charcoal/grey color and you can really see the fibers in the mold. However, it looks almost identical to my friends 8 year old T4 with a plastic chassis. The box makes no mention of carbon parts, but the instructions do - and the AE website mentions carbon parts (in the discontinued section). Any way to tell the difference, or do all FT T4 kits have the carbon parts? Thanks!
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02-20-2012, 10:09 AM
#603
I tried to find a thread on the T4 and had no luck, so I thought I would post my question here in the T4.1 thread. I have a later version of the FT T4 and a FT T4.1. I am trying to figure out if my T4 has the carbon chassis. I read somewhere that AE switched to the plastic chassis before the T4.1 came out - is this true? I also heard that all FT T4 kits had the carbon chassis, and the switch to plastic only happened with the T4.1 kits. My T4 chassis is very different from my T4.1 chassis, it's more of a charcoal/grey color and you can really see the fibers in the mold. However, it looks almost identical to my friends 8 year old T4 with a plastic chassis. The box makes no mention of carbon parts, but the instructions do - and the AE website mentions carbon parts (in the discontinued section). Any way to tell the difference, or do all FT T4 kits have the carbon parts? Thanks!
02-20-2012, 10:15 AM
#604
The photo above w/ the Power Stroke shocks is an FT T4. The carbon as you said is more of a charcoal gray. The arms on mine however have been switched to RPMs.. Why would they release the T4.1 in plastic? Wouldn't that be reversing technology? Anyway, you can still get the carbon chassis separate.
02-20-2012, 10:16 AM
#605
Scott beat me to it, they switched to all plastic because plastic flexes more thus resulting in a more predicatable car with more traction. All kits now come with plastic chassis and suspension components. The only time i hear of people experimenting with carbon anymore is on super high bite, smooth sufaces. This would make the car more responsive and aggresive feeling.
02-20-2012, 10:23 AM
#606
Scott beat me to it, they switched to all plastic because plastic flexes more thus resulting in a more predicatable car with more traction. All kits now come with plastic chassis and suspension components. The only time i hear of people experimenting with carbon anymore is on super high bite, smooth sufaces. This would make the car more responsive and aggresive feeling.
02-20-2012, 10:30 AM
#607
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...3-plastic.html
02-20-2012, 10:37 AM
#608
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The photo above w/ the Power Stroke shocks is an FT T4. The carbon as you said is more of a charcoal gray. The arms on mine however have been switched to RPMs.. Why would they release the T4.1 in plastic? Wouldn't that be reversing technology? Anyway, you can still get the carbon chassis separate.
02-20-2012, 10:48 AM
#609
they switched to all plastic because plastic flexes more thus resulting in a more predicatable car with more traction. All kits now come with plastic chassis and suspension components. The only time i hear of people experimenting with carbon anymore is on super high bite, smooth sufaces. This would make the car more responsive and aggresive feeling.
The whole Idea for going to carbon composite chassis and suspension components was to bring consistency into setups. No longer did you have to worry about if or if not, how much or little the chassis and suspension arms were going to play into the reaction of the car to the track. You were now able to fully tune the car with the shocks, springs, camber and toe-in settings and not have to worry about if because of a stiffer or softer suspension was the car's chassis going to absorb more or less of the impact of bumps and jumps.
IMPO, I really think they did it as a cost cutting feature to the racer. While you do suffer from less consistency with your chassis setup, 1: The car is more resistant to impact damage and 2: The cost of parts and replacements are cheaper.
Just my $0.02
02-20-2012, 10:52 AM
#610
I'm certainly not calling you 2 liars but I would have to hear this out of the engineers at AE and TL mouths before I can believe this.
The whole Idea for going to carbon composite chassis and suspension components was to bring consistency into setups. No longer did you have to worry about if or if not, how much or little the chassis and suspension arms were going to play into the reaction of the car to the track. You were now able to fully tune the car with the shocks, springs, camber and toe-in settings and not have to worry about if because of a stiffer or softer suspension was the car's chassis going to absorb more or less of the impact of bumps and jumps.
IMPO, I really think they did it as a cost cutting feature to the racer. While you do suffer from less consistency with your chassis setup, 1: The car is more resistant to impact damage and 2: The cost of parts and replacements are cheaper.
Just my $0.02
The whole Idea for going to carbon composite chassis and suspension components was to bring consistency into setups. No longer did you have to worry about if or if not, how much or little the chassis and suspension arms were going to play into the reaction of the car to the track. You were now able to fully tune the car with the shocks, springs, camber and toe-in settings and not have to worry about if because of a stiffer or softer suspension was the car's chassis going to absorb more or less of the impact of bumps and jumps.
IMPO, I really think they did it as a cost cutting feature to the racer. While you do suffer from less consistency with your chassis setup, 1: The car is more resistant to impact damage and 2: The cost of parts and replacements are cheaper.
Just my $0.02
That being said I do think a plastic chassis will help with tracktion.
02-20-2012, 11:19 AM
#611
Hexes
Anyone running hexes on their T4?
02-20-2012, 12:31 PM
#612
02-20-2012, 02:11 PM
#615
Anyone running Tlr BB Springs on there T4.1 ?