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Old 11-02-2011 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by old&slow
Has anyone found a different bladder that fits these cap well. The stock bladderes seem to be too stiff and hard for my taste. Seem like a softer more flexible bladder would offer better performance. I like a bit of rebound in shocks so am sticking to bladders for now
The replacement bladders I picked up (stock AE) were much softer than the kit bladders.
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Old 11-02-2011 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BLbound
Are you liking your 4000kv 540 4 pole tekin motor? Any want for the 4600? I want to get 1 or the other. I'm running a 550 4.5 right now, I like it a lot but I just want to try the power of a 4 pole
I love the 4000 and think its the best all around choice. Unless you are running a car that weighs over 6.5 lbs on a very large track you shouldn't need any more motor. If you are a "one motor needs to fit all tracks" guy, the 4600 can be dialed back to work anywhere, but it won't be able to match the throttle response of the 4000. I've let quite a few guys try my truck at one of the local indoor tracks that have the tekin 4600 in their trucks already and a couple of them walked into the hobbyshop and purchased the 4000 on the spot.
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Old 11-02-2011 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RokleM
RE: Batteries

I'm moving from a 7.5 to a 4.5 550 can. While my gensace 40c 5000 packs have worked great so far, it sounds like quite a few have smoked them going to the 550 can. I've seen references to the Hobbyking Turnigy nano-tech batteries. Is this the safer route? Anyone with good/bad experiences with these on a 550 (saw a couple good, but would like to hear more)? Any of those ROAR approved at all in case it comes up?
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been running gens ace 40c 5000mah on my set up ....running novak havoc pro and 550 can team epic motor ...havent had any problems can run 12-15 minutes hard running on the track ....also got a hobby shop chinese lipo cheap pack and no problems with it either ...
Thanks! I'm actually going with the novak SCT combo they have now, so similar.

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I ran those exact batteries all summer with my 4.5 turn 550 tekin motor without any issues. They felt warmer than average after dumping one, but never puffed and punch felt fine. Enter the tekin 4000kv 540 4 pole motor and those same packs came off the track warmer than I was comfortable with and one swelled a touch. I have since relegated my gens ace to 2wd and picked up 4 new 5600 mah 50-100C Hard case nano-techs and they come off the track as if I was running a stock buggy: cold.
Thanks.

I will try to get out to the track for a test run after I get things overhauled. I'll get a few minutes into the GensAce and see how it's doing heat wise and possibly go for one of the 65/130 nano-techs they're offer now if I'm concerned with the GensAce.
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Old 11-02-2011 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Krio
I love the 4000 and think its the best all around choice. Unless you are running a car that weighs over 6.5 lbs on a very large track you shouldn't need any more motor. If you are a "one motor needs to fit all tracks" guy, the 4600 can be dialed back to work anywhere, but it won't be able to match the throttle response of the 4000. I've let quite a few guys try my truck at one of the local indoor tracks that have the tekin 4600 in their trucks already and a couple of them walked into the hobbyshop and purchased the 4000 on the spot.
Ryan Lutz runs the 4600 in his Drango and he even turns down the end point quite a bit. I think too much is not a good thing with the 4600 unless you are a real pro at racing. You enter another factor in weather you change your gear or your end point on your radio to stay in control. Drivetrain destruction might be another factor with the 4600 with all the power it puts out.
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Old 11-02-2011 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by special_k
No question someone had a pic on here a few pages back showing his not lining up right but I think it might have been his spur gear that the basket,disc and outer plate not alining right.
Um yeah that was me. Mine drops right in like yours when the whole slipper assembly is not together like in your photo. Take another after it is assembled in the truck and let us know how centered everything is. Something is amiss just not sure what it is with my truck.
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Old 11-02-2011 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Krio
I love the 4000 and think its the best all around choice. Unless you are running a car that weighs over 6.5 lbs on a very large track you shouldn't need any more motor. If you are a "one motor needs to fit all tracks" guy, the 4600 can be dialed back to work anywhere, but it won't be able to match the throttle response of the 4000. I've let quite a few guys try my truck at one of the local indoor tracks that have the tekin 4600 in their trucks already and a couple of them walked into the hobbyshop and purchased the 4000 on the spot.
Kiro, can you post up a good RX8 setup for the Pro 4 4000kv motor or send me a pm if you want.

Thanks!
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Old 11-02-2011 | 01:33 PM
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Here is my RX8 Setup.

Timing advance: 10 (equivalent of 3 degrees of timing on 'other brand' esc's)
Timing range: Default (approx 5k to 20k)
Throttle profile: 3
Drag brake: 0
Brake strength: 60 is the most I've ever needed. I dial it back according to the track surface so that I'm just shy of locking the tires up. 50 is a safe all around number, but gearing will also affect this.
Throttle minimum: 10
Brake minimum: 10
Reverse strength: 20 (just enough to roll backwards if I need to during practice)

This is all geared at either 15 or 16 teeth on the pinion with the 62 tooth spur for my local tracks. Temp your motor after 3 and 5 minutes and gear accordingly, but I come off between 140 and 180 depending on the track.

lmk if I missed any... lol
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Old 11-02-2011 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SS LS1
Um yeah that was me. Mine drops right in like yours when the whole slipper assembly is not together like in your photo. Take another after it is assembled in the truck and let us know how centered everything is. Something is amiss just not sure what it is with my truck.
I sure will I should be done with it tonight just changing diff fluids in the front and rear and front is done. Was trying to clean the old oil out what do u guys use. I tryed this one cleaner to see if it worked and also Im trying dawn and water to see if she cuts greese ( oil ) out of my way lol
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Old 11-02-2011 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Krio
Here is my RX8 Setup.

Timing advance: 10 (equivalent of 3 degrees of timing on 'other brand' esc's)
Timing range: Default (approx 5k to 20k)
Throttle profile: 3
Drag brake: 0
Brake strength: 60 is the most I've ever needed. I dial it back according to the track surface so that I'm just shy of locking the tires up. 50 is a safe all around number, but gearing will also affect this.
Throttle minimum: 10
Brake minimum: 10
Reverse strength: 20 (just enough to roll backwards if I need to during practice)

This is all geared at either 15 or 16 teeth on the pinion with the 62 tooth spur for my local tracks. Temp your motor after 3 and 5 minutes and gear accordingly, but I come off between 140 and 180 depending on the track.

lmk if I missed any... lol
i have the same motor i am pretty sure you are over gearing it i run no bigger then the 13 tooth i come off the track at 120-150 and it is fast
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Old 11-02-2011 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Jarosz
White: 1.5mm
Blue: 2.0mm
Yellow: 2.2mm

The most current swaybar kits are coming with a 4th bar.

Orange: 1.8mm
Will I be able to purchase the orange one by itself...?
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Old 11-02-2011 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lodhammerdin
Will I be able to purchase the orange one by itself...?
Associated usually sells them seperate for other models , so im guessing it will be available seperate for our sc's. I know on my RC8 they offer a sway bar kit and also sell the swaybars seperatly.
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Old 11-02-2011 | 03:11 PM
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Well, Made a chassis brace, went to try it out AND.... my motor died .
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Old 11-02-2011 | 03:19 PM
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Thanks Kiro, that's exactly what i'm looking for! Wiring up my RX8 right now and will hook up the hotwire later tonight.

With the 4000kv Pro 4 I'm starting with 15/62 as a fellow racer runs that gearing on his SC10 same motor and temps 120° - 130° after 6 mins, only diff is he runs a MMP esc.
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Old 11-02-2011 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fastrc64
i have the same motor i am pretty sure you are over gearing it i run no bigger then the 13 tooth i come off the track at 120-150 and it is fast
I do too, and i am geared at 14/58 with a small amount of turbo and boost
This is on a somewhat large track with a big long straight. I simply like as much power as I can get! I would bet my truck is geared to go 45mph-ish
It is freaking awesome to be faster down the straight than 1/8 buggy!
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Old 11-02-2011 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Krio
Here is my RX8 Setup.

Timing advance: 10 (equivalent of 3 degrees of timing on 'other brand' esc's)
Timing range: Default (approx 5k to 20k)
Throttle profile: 3
Drag brake: 0
Brake strength: 60 is the most I've ever needed. I dial it back according to the track surface so that I'm just shy of locking the tires up. 50 is a safe all around number, but gearing will also affect this.
Throttle minimum: 10
Brake minimum: 10
Reverse strength: 20 (just enough to roll backwards if I need to during practice)

This is all geared at either 15 or 16 teeth on the pinion with the 62 tooth spur for my local tracks. Temp your motor after 3 and 5 minutes and gear accordingly, but I come off between 140 and 180 depending on the track.

lmk if I missed any... lol
how much mah do you put back into the battery after a 6 min qualifier?
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