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Wild Cherry 05-19-2013 10:34 PM

Ha Ha Ha

I PWN you !!!!



I built & tuned Harleys

Sc10 4x4....


I`m feeling really good & will pour another glass of pink wine in celebration..

I really wanted to go , even rebuilt the truck ect for .


Work made it not possible for me to clip your wings...

lucky 4 U ...:D

SC Shaun 05-19-2013 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 12169913)
Ha Ha Ha

I PWN you !!!!

I built & tuned Harleys Sc10 4x4....
I`m feeling really good & will pour another glass of pink wine in celebration..

:weird:

Guess he needs a new mechanic. Because he's a better driver than me, and he lost to my big sloppy mean ol' Basher Tekno SCT410. =)

(I'm done talking about him.) Goodnight. :tire:

Disclaimer: I respect that driver very much and hope none of this talk finds it's way to his ear in any slanderous form

Wild Cherry 05-19-2013 10:50 PM

Shaun , Harley & me are really good buddies .

Nothing you could say or post ect that could affect our friendship..LoL

gatorage 05-20-2013 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 12169484)
Rusty

Max's set up posted on www.rc10.com is awesome !
Use as your base set up and start from there.

that the setup i posted for him PNB 2013!!! it almost what i run but/// i have non ft stock shock piston/emulsion/ blue spring rear/1.5 anti roll rear/front washer is like 2.5mm inside only and rear is around 5mm ( i run the rear link full all the way long in and out hole)and i dont run the carbon part to raised the ballstud(i tryed it but i like the tire to roll on the edge a little). my diff is 10k front 5k back( i lower the oil it help the rear not to rotate as much off power + i run around 120grm front haft of the truck(outside the chassis to about the middle) and exotek locked front clutch so i dont need heaver oil for grip). also i only run +3 wheels in the front

Cherry (try this setup if you have a spare truck) on you track and tell me how it hold up(i just want some input on this setup)... the only thing i wish i they made a harder spring for front i think my next order will be ofna 14mm spring front for the hyper 9 medium or firm. i have the soft and there like the same as associate yellow(slightly softer and taller you haft to run the shock collar to the top).

TomErickson 05-20-2013 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by MantisWorx (Post 12166738)
BINGO!! If you do some searching on this thread you will find that months ago I made a new motor plate with an idler gear to rotate the motor in reverse. Good new is that it pretty much cured the handling issues but the bad news is that i could not get an idler gear to last more than a pack or two before it would eat itself alive. So to to answer your question yes the truck has a gyro effect because of the way it spins. If you spin the motor the same way in a 2wd buggy it will have the same jumping and handling characteristics.

I did do some searching but did not see a photo. I am assuming that you placed the gear low on the plate. What gear did you use and what failed? Did it chew-up teeth or was it bearings?

I also saw a post by Krio that covered the same issue on a 2WD kit.

Seems like performance of this chassis would be improved with the Center Diff and 4 gear transmission. What if the motor was more centered on the chassis like a TC6.1? The effect would be reduced right?

Wild Cherry 05-20-2013 08:15 AM

Gator

Max's set-up makes for mass grip , the indoor tracks I run on won't need .


Got a brand new outdoor track , its still being finished but looking forward to doing some racing there ...
Will try Max's set-up then .

9turn 05-20-2013 10:10 AM

I love to see somebody else try to set up with Rpm pistons

gatorage 05-20-2013 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 12171017)
Gator

Max's set-up makes for mass grip , the indoor tracks I run on won't need .


Got a brand new outdoor track , its still being finished but looking forward to doing some racing there ...
Will try Max's set-up then .

very true!!! the track i run on changes so much in a race day or from race to race. like one race you have so much grip you can run slick next race there no grip so i tune for the track with no grip(the track is also not even grip around the whole track from one turn to the next). the lanes are so big a little push is not bad. to give you a idea how big the lanes are here a vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uNuvQ5a--M

Cain 05-20-2013 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by TomErickson (Post 12170896)
I did do some searching but did not see a photo. I am assuming that you placed the gear low on the plate. What gear did you use and what failed? Did it chew-up teeth or was it bearings?

From what I recall, it was the teeth on the gear that stripped, but could be wrong, but again, that is what I remember.

gatorage 05-20-2013 11:53 AM

has anyone try the M2C Rear Toe Block at -1 anti-squat(how they put it)/1* pro-squat??? how did it work and can you drive it harder in to a turn with it???

MantisWorx 05-20-2013 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by TomErickson (Post 12170896)
I did do some searching but did not see a photo. I am assuming that you placed the gear low on the plate. What gear did you use and what failed? Did it chew-up teeth or was it bearings?

I also saw a post by Krio that covered the same issue on a 2WD kit.

Seems like performance of this chassis would be improved with the Center Diff and 4 gear transmission. What if the motor was more centered on the chassis like a TC6.1? The effect would be reduced right?

I used the stock idler gears and even an aluminum one chewed up.
I machined a new motor plate but something moved around too much and the idler would die with a quickness.
a 4 gear tranny would be awesome but its never going to happen unless AE does it. The tooling cost alone to mold a new case would be upwards of 10k! the front and rear case would have to be redesigned.I have a 3d printer but it would still cost quite a bit to make it happen. Moving the motor towards the front would help but it still spins the same way, may actually make it worse if you think about it.
Another thing you have to take into consideration is that some motors cant really spin in reverse due to static timing and you are also limited by ESC's too, not all have the ability to run in reverse rotation.

MantisWorx 05-20-2013 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by 9turn (Post 12171431)
I love to see somebody else try to set up with Rpm pistons

RPM doesnt make pistons for the 4x4

MantisWorx 05-20-2013 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by gatorage (Post 12171773)
has anyone try the M2C Rear Toe Block at -1 anti-squat(how they put it)/1* pro-squat??? how did it work and can you drive it harder in to a turn with it???

Prosquat will give you some stability going into the turn but you will have very little traction on exit which is what the truck already has a tendency to do. It may work on a high bite or carpet track though.

gatorage 05-20-2013 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by MantisWorx (Post 12171808)
Prosquat will give you some stability going into the turn but you will have very little traction on exit which is what the truck already has a tendency to do. It may work on a high bite or carpet track though.

(i know what it dose)the funny thing is i never had on power issues with this truck even on slippery track but off power it like to whip out quick. that why i ask how it felt on this truck.

(this might be overboard)but i was going to try to make a moving quat (to much work) for my 2wd where wend you hit the gas the anti-quat would lift to 3* then wend you let off it go back to zero. if you think the wheel will force the front of the arm up the harder as it accurate but it will not go back so you could have a spring or leaf spring that pushes it back down to zero. yea it will move up and down in the bumps but that should be a good thing. i think this would be the best thing to put on a rc car (make car fell good on and off power)and you can have harder and softer spring to you liking!!!

sneako 05-20-2013 06:04 PM

FT only now
 
http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/90004/

SC10 4x4 .2 on the way?


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