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OptimumRC 03-31-2012 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by rm25x (Post 10539812)
I was at the track last night, and a few guys (mostly Losi guys) were saying that ae is already building a new truck to replace the SC10 4x4 that is a shaft driven truck like the Losi is. Just talk or has anyone else heard the same thing?

Sounds like a bunch of BS especially since you are located in Michigan, and AE is in SoCal I doubt they have any inside information or talkted to anyone that actually knew.

AE has bigger fish to fry with the B5 since next year is a Worlds year.

GoatBoy 03-31-2012 10:38 AM

One could say AE is ALWAYS working on the next "project". The cars they produce don't come over night. New designs, R&D, prototypes are happening everyday.

jodyfj40 03-31-2012 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 10540560)
The shim goes behind the sun gear.

There is a shim there now, I was under the ssumption that if i had clicking under acceleration i needed to add another one. just wondering what parts you guys used for the that.
thanks

JEFFs SC10 03-31-2012 10:58 AM

Some add thicker shims. See if that one is bent worn out etc. I doubled mine up. Do a search on this thread to see what whims other guys used.

JLinney 03-31-2012 10:59 AM

The factory supplied shims for these diffs are just the beginning of what needs to be installed in my opinion. How can anything be mass produced and expected to use same shims to achieve proper clearances across the board. It is impossible for quality control to be that tight on something we are purchasing this cheap. The diffs will have to be looked at closely and shimmed accordingly for the correct operation and life of diff. If you are building diffs with supplied shims only, expect failures. I have a original FT RC8 that I am still using original ring and pinions, side and planet gears with original washers. This is because I tear down everything, new or not, and put my fianl touches on it. I build automotive transmissions, differentials, engines, etc. for a living in a dealership so this is not new territory, just smaller scale of what I have been doing for a while now:nod:

jodyfj40 03-31-2012 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 10540735)
Some add thicker shims. See if that one is bent worn out etc. I doubled mine up. Do a search on this thread to see what whims other guys used.

I took the shims off the hub side and used them under the gear and it feels to tight to me. do some people only shim under one side of the sun gears? just feels way to tight to me.
Thanks again
Jody

JEFFs SC10 03-31-2012 11:57 AM

it should be the net same effect, but I would think doing both sides is better.

bcrazy 03-31-2012 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 10540527)
Idle chatter. If AE wanted to do that, they could make it happen with almost 100% off the shelf parts tomorrow based on the RC8.2e chassis.

A couple of users have already built them.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...c10-2-4wd.html

I'm fairly sure you can't just put a SC body on a RC8.2, narrow the front and rear hubs then call it a 4wd SC. If you really look at the Losi SCTE everything about it is smaller than the Losi 8 buggy(diffs, chassis, suspension, etc, etc etc) The Losi SCTE is based off the 810 buggy and 10T truck. All three of these platforms do not share any parts with the Losi 8 1/8 buggy that resembles the RC8.2 in size and weight. When you look at electric 1/8 buggies many of them run on a 4s system because of the extra weight and size. Not only does the power plant need to get the size of the buggy itself around but it also must turn a bigger drive train. The differentials in the RC8.2 are bigger than any production 4wd SC. (Ofna, Jammin, Losi, Durango)
If AE were to conceder producing a 3 diff shaft driven short course truck it would probably be smaller than the RC8.2 much like the SCTE is smaller and does not share any parts with the Losi 8.
I feel the current platform works great. I raced on a loose blown out outdoor track last week with my SC10 4x4 and TQd both rounds of qualifying by a lap over the fastest Losi and won the main by 1/2 a lap. (had to change my line and in the main because the wind came up)

JEFFs SC10 03-31-2012 11:59 AM

the body fits. I'm pretty sure the new breed of production kits for 4wd sct will have beefy drivetrains from the 1/8 scale stuff. It adds durability.

bcrazy 03-31-2012 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 10540890)
the body fits. I'm pretty sure the new breed of production kits for 4wd sct will have beefy drivetrains from the 1/8 scale stuff. It adds durability.

You still have to run 4wd Short Course on 2s. While the esc and brushless technology is getting better I don't see many people if any running 2s in the 1/8 electric buggy class. Why ??? size and weight :)

Wild Cherry 03-31-2012 12:15 PM

The conversion experiment is already fail if you ask me ....

no steering , too much weight , with 2s they are slow . only way they even keep up is with more cells (4s)


anyone with some 1/8th scale experience would know ...

ilanstylz 03-31-2012 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 10540925)
The conversion experiment is already fail if you ask me ....

no steering , too much weight , with 2s they are slow . only way they even keep up is with more cells (4s)


anyone with some 1/8th scale experience would know ...

That is whats holding me back from converting my RC8, if I go with a 1/10th electric setup I'm not sure if the motor/esc can withstand constant abuse from the weight. And if I go 1/8th setup then it'll be just as bad as running it on 2s......... Ehh I think I'll just keep my RC8 for what it was built for and thats an 1/8th e-buggy.......

bcrazy 03-31-2012 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 10540925)
The conversion experiment is already fail if you ask me ....

no steering , too much weight , with 2s they are slow . only way they even keep up is with more cells (4s)


anyone with some 1/8th scale experience would know ...

+1

I have run an electric RC8 and my SC10 4x4 along with a Losi, Durango, Traxxas, Jammin 4wd SC on the same track and there is no comparison. The smaller chassis trucks get around much better on smaller to med size 1/10 scale tracks. (I say this because its what I race on:) )
If everyone wants a bigger Short Course class to take off on the bigger 1/8 scale tracks then they should go out and get the Team Associated SC8. Get their Losi buddies to put a 8T chassis on their 8 buggy, add a SC8 body, wheels, and tires to it then have at it.:) I think that would be fun. I wish the bigger SCs took off but they never did :)

JEFFs SC10 03-31-2012 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by bcrazy (Post 10540913)
You still have to run 4wd Short Course on 2s. While the esc and brushless technology is getting better I don't see many people if any running 2s in the 1/8 electric buggy class. Why ??? size and weight :)

I would run rx8 with a Pro 4 or the new Revtech motor. More than enough power.

This would be ideal for a medium to large outdoor track or 1/8 scale track with bigger jumps.

The market is there .

Wild Cherry 03-31-2012 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 10540966)
I would run rx8 with a Pro 4 or the new Revtech motor. More than enough power.

This would be ideal for a medium to large outdoor track or 1/8 scale track with bigger jumps.

The market is there .

Won't be fast enuff on 2s
you will have too use 4s , only way .....

and when the guys with the conversion use the 4s ?
They can blast right by on the straight, but on the infield they can't turn and are slow due to no corner sp from the extra weight ...


Hope U understand Jeff , I have racing those things bout 2 month & guess what ?

Manage quite well against ....:deathstar:D


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