Originally Posted by boborc (Post 10376494)

Just need an honest opinion. Do the saddle packs make that much of a difference that it is s must have. Or is the stick pack good enough for a club racer. Just want to know if it is worth the investment???

Originally Posted by Cameron Kellogg (Post 10376238)

I found that I liked the white front springs on the rear even more after we chatted but with the two stage pistons I had too much rebound but it was better everywhere else but landing the big jumps. Easy fix though. It did jump considerably better. We have a new layout now and we will see if it works on the new layout too.

Originally Posted by Cain (Post 10375911)

I wonder how much bias you get when the foward style saddle pack conversion from exotek is used?

Originally Posted by CristianTabush (Post 10375920)

For drive I ran a clutch basket with HD pads. We tried our own version of a center diff, and while it felt good through the corners and rough sections, it suffered leading up to jumps, it felt like it was diffing out. It's almost like an 8th scale with too light of a center fluid/ empty center diff.

Originally Posted by CristianTabush (Post 10375920)

Another thing that I think suited the track was light diff fluid. Running 3k rear 5k front. This is what I run on my SCTE, so I figured I would give it a shot. I still am not sure about it, have to run it in more, but so far I have liked it.

Now I am just waiting on a pinned top shaft to try that again. We'll see. At least the jumps are doable. I do think that part of the problem on the jump is that the right line to take is only about 3 ft wide. This is really hard to hit every time correctly on a track this size.

Originally Posted by boborc (Post 10376494)

Just need an honest opinion. Do the saddle packs make that much of a difference that it is s must have. Or is the stick pack good enough for a club racer. Just want to know if it is worth the investment???

Originally Posted by boborc (Post 10376494)

Just need an honest opinion. Do the saddle packs make that much of a difference that it is s must have. Or is the stick pack good enough for a club racer. Just want to know if it is worth the investment???

Originally Posted by BlueGlowBoy (Post 10373851)

"goes fine" and "can accellerate consistently like a 3 dif truck" are two entirely different things.

I ran all year last year with any combination of standard and HD pads, and it was the same thing. Even with washers under the spring to let it fully compress before bottoming out the nut, I'd have a hard time clearing the double we have after a sharp corner near the end of the race, and the pads would be at least partially glazed....I spent more time ripping apart my dif and resanding the pads between races than I did charging batteries.... Switched to Garodiscs and haven't had the fading or glazing problem since. (If the stock slipper was perfect, then they wouldn't have changed it for the FT truck...just saying.)

Originally Posted by CristianTabush (Post 10376008)

I have never had much issue about the truck jumping. My personal feeling, which is not the end all, be all with this truck is that it lacks grip. On smaller tracks, this is not a very big issue because high power motors are not needed to get around the track quickly, but on the big tracks, the problem is exacerbated. If you can't get the power down, you can't get speed to get the jumping distance.

The truck lacks a proper power distribution system. The slipper set up is not great and the center ball diffs slip with high power and or high grip. Even when running a triple clutch, the power is not distributing to all 4 wheels equally. The front always receives less power with the decoupled set-up and receives more power with the center diff set-up. Neither is really optimal.

The Center of Gravity is high. Even with heavy aluminum chassis, the truck still has a high center of gravity relative to the other race trucks in the market. Again, on high speed, big tracks, this is a hindrance.

Lastly; messed up roll centers. The truck has really low roll centers, and high CG. This is the combination of death. Top that off with a heavy lexan body and it's not a good combo. You are stuck running too stiff of a spring to keep the truck from dumping over in the corners, which leads to no forward bite.

These issues are null/ or close to null on higher grip indoor tracks. But on low grip tracks or big tracks, the truck's weaknesses are exposed.

Originally Posted by x2racer (Post 10376597)

+10... it seems like ae just rushed on this to get a piece of the 4x4 sc market. I believe what mantis said about ae downgrading this to a junior and making another sc based off the rc8e is soon to come.

Originally Posted by CoyoteSlash (Post 10376623)

They didn't "rush" anything.

Originally Posted by x2racer (Post 10376704)

I hope not. But just coming from So Cal and racing at revelation, hot rod and jcp many excellent drivers has sold there ae to either get a losi, nexx or durango. Because of the multiple so called hop ups to get this truck dialed. Just stating what i experienced first hand.

Originally Posted by x2racer (Post 10376597)

+10... it seems like ae just rushed on this to get a piece of the 4x4 sc market. I believe what mantis said about ae downgrading this to a junior and making another sc based off the rc8e is soon to come.

Originally Posted by ilanstylz (Post 10376824)

However those that just want to complain, complain, complain need to understand that the sc10 4x4 is an almost whole new design from the ground up, I expected there to be issues with it but that's one thing I love about my SC10 is to find ways of making it better.