Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric Off-Road
Losi 1/10 TEN-SCTE ARR 4x4 Short Course Truck Thread >

Losi 1/10 TEN-SCTE ARR 4x4 Short Course Truck Thread

Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Like Tree9Likes

Losi 1/10 TEN-SCTE ARR 4x4 Short Course Truck Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-14-2012, 08:43 PM
  #39316  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (3)
 
Gene158's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New Haven, CT
Posts: 634
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

I just ordered the scte roller from my lhs. I will be using a tenshock sc401 4600kv and was planning on pairing it with a hobbywing sct pro but can't seem to find one anywhere in north america and I don't feel like waiting weeks for it to arrive. Any suggestions on where to find one? Is there a comparable esc (specs/price) that I would be able to find in north america?
Gene158 is offline  
Old 09-14-2012, 08:50 PM
  #39317  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (3)
 
Gene158's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New Haven, CT
Posts: 634
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Nevermind.
Gene158 is offline  
Old 09-14-2012, 10:39 PM
  #39318  
Tech Regular
 
aquito's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Oceanside CA
Posts: 264
Default

Originally Posted by Gene158
I just ordered the scte roller from my lhs. I will be using a tenshock sc401 4600kv and was planning on pairing it with a hobbywing sct pro but can't seem to find one anywhere in north america and I don't feel like waiting weeks for it to arrive. Any suggestions on where to find one? Is there a comparable esc (specs/price) that I would be able to find in north america?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewi...id=01101323481
aquito is offline  
Old 09-15-2012, 06:53 AM
  #39319  
Tech Master
iTrader: (9)
 
TCCustoms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: South Central Michigan
Posts: 1,512
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Gene158
I just ordered the scte roller from my lhs. I will be using a tenshock sc401 4600kv and was planning on pairing it with a hobbywing sct pro but can't seem to find one anywhere in north america and I don't feel like waiting weeks for it to arrive. Any suggestions on where to find one? Is there a comparable esc (specs/price) that I would be able to find in north america?
falconsekido.com is a good US site and also has free shipping on the SCT Pro
Use Coupon Code: SCTPRO4ME

http://www.falconsekido.com/products...c-for-1-10-car
TCCustoms is offline  
Old 09-15-2012, 10:33 AM
  #39320  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (8)
 
caguilar4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 138
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

Hi guys,

I just dropped in a Tekin combo Rx8/pro4 4600kv into my scte. I just practiced for one day and raced on the next day. Instantly dropped 2 seconds off of my average times! Thatss great!

Now I also changes tires while I was at it, and am noticing a lot of tire wear up front and about 90% rear tire life. Im talking bald tires upfront. How are you guys mitigatig this? Ive got 3/3/2 in fr/ctr/rear. Would changing my diff oils help balance thigs out? If so, what would be the recomended diff oils?

Thanks!

Last edited by caguilar4; 09-15-2012 at 10:48 AM.
caguilar4 is offline  
Old 09-15-2012, 10:55 AM
  #39321  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
TimMo846's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 736
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by caguilar4
Hi guys,

I just dropped in a Tekin combo Rx8/pro4 4600kv into my scte. I just practiced for one day and raced on the next day. Instantly dropped 2 seconds off of my average times! Thatss great!

Now I also changes tires while I was at it, and am noticing a lot of tire wear up front and about 90% rear tire life. Im talking bald tires upfront. How are you guys mitigatig this? Ive got 3/3/2 in fr/ctr/rear. Would changing my diff oils help balance thigs out? If so, what would be the recomended diff oils?

Thanks!
I'm running 5/5/3 and have about the same issue, but I run on a clay track and use Wishbones, so kinda expected to burn them up fast.

What tires are you running?
TimMo846 is offline  
Old 09-15-2012, 11:33 AM
  #39322  
Tech Lord
iTrader: (8)
 
Integra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 12,489
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

Ive ran the Stock Grease for as long as i could justify and have since ran SD grease and Honestly dont notice any funny tire wear aside from front left in which we KNOW the Culprit to that (Dual Sweepers in the same direction)

How old is the Oil in the diffs ?
Integra is offline  
Old 09-15-2012, 11:38 AM
  #39323  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (121)
 
ChrisAttebery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Gilroy, CA
Posts: 2,258
Trader Rating: 121 (100%+)
Default

Try using heavier oil in the center. You might have to play with the oils to get the traction/steering/wear you're looking for. Our track is high traction and slightly abrasive, so I'm running 5/7/3.

Originally Posted by caguilar4
Hi guys,

I just dropped in a Tekin combo Rx8/pro4 4600kv into my scte. I just practiced for one day and raced on the next day. Instantly dropped 2 seconds off of my average times! Thatss great!

Now I also changes tires while I was at it, and am noticing a lot of tire wear up front and about 90% rear tire life. Im talking bald tires upfront. How are you guys mitigatig this? Ive got 3/3/2 in fr/ctr/rear. Would changing my diff oils help balance thigs out? If so, what would be the recomended diff oils?

Thanks!
ChrisAttebery is offline  
Old 09-15-2012, 11:43 AM
  #39324  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (42)
 
BashemSmashem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,649
Trader Rating: 42 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by caguilar4
Hi guys,

I just dropped in a Tekin combo Rx8/pro4 4600kv into my scte. I just practiced for one day and raced on the next day. Instantly dropped 2 seconds off of my average times! Thatss great!

Now I also changes tires while I was at it, and am noticing a lot of tire wear up front and about 90% rear tire life. Im talking bald tires upfront. How are you guys mitigatig this? Ive got 3/3/2 in fr/ctr/rear. Would changing my diff oils help balance thigs out? If so, what would be the recomended diff oils?

Thanks!
Do you like the way it handles now ? If so changing the center diff oil (thicker) will change the way the truck accelerates and turns under/off power .

Tires are a consumable item and unfortunately softer tires = better grip but also wear faster . You can rotate the F/R tires every few runs or run a firmer compound for longer wear .

If you are running a high bite surface its par for the course , I have run at tracks where a set of tires were smoked in 4-5 runs .....
BashemSmashem is offline  
Old 09-15-2012, 12:18 PM
  #39325  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (8)
 
caguilar4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 138
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by TimMo846
I'm running 5/5/3 and have about the same issue, but I run on a clay track and use Wishbones, so kinda expected to burn them up fast.

What tires are you running?
Im running soft barcodes (used to tun supersoft), think I'll b switching to medium or hard options. Im running on a clay hard packed track.

Originally Posted by Integra
Ive ran the Stock Grease for as long as i could justify and have since ran SD grease and Honestly dont notice any funny tire wear aside from front left in which we KNOW the Culprit to that (Dual Sweepers in the same direction)

How old is the Oil in the diffs ?
The oil is about 5races old

Originally Posted by ChrisAttebery
Try using heavier oil in the center. You might have to play with the oils to get the traction/steering/wear you're looking for. Our track is high traction and slightly abrasive, so I'm running 5/7/3.
I am changing oils right now to 5/5/3 just to learn what the truck feels like.

Originally Posted by BashemSmashem
Do you like the way it handles now ? If so changing the center diff oil (thicker) will change the way the truck accelerates and turns under/off power .

Tires are a consumable item and unfortunately softer tires = better grip but also wear faster . You can rotate the F/R tires every few runs or run a firmer compound for longer wear .

If you are running a high bite surface its par for the course , I have run at tracks where a set of tires were smoked in 4-5 runs .....
3/3/2 felt pretty good, as stated above, Im changing oils right now, as I want to learn what the truck will do. Kinda trial and error. Hey, i might even find out that there might b a better combination. Have heard some people using 20k oils (not at my track thou). So im still learning... Havent found any literature as to the effects of different oils so Im just trying it out for myself.

This is the fun part of our hobby, trial n error!!
caguilar4 is offline  
Old 09-15-2012, 12:24 PM
  #39326  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (146)
 
RC*PHREAK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 5,373
Trader Rating: 146 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by skrichter
3/3/2 felt pretty good, as stated above, Im changing oils right now, as I want to learn what the truck will do. Kinda trial and error. Hey, i might even find out that there might b a better combination. Have heard some people using 20k oils (not at my track thou). So im still learning... Havent found any literature as to the effects of different oils so Im just trying it out for myself.

This is the fun part of our hobby, trial n error!!
http://jq-products.com/the-news/43-t.../160-the-guide

4.2 Set Up

A good starting point that will work for all cars is, front-centre-rear, 5000-7000-3000. This is a popular basic set up and if your car is terrible, and you have this diff set up, you can be sure that it’s not the diffs. It will be decent everywhere. However, on THE Car, I tend to like to run a thicker diff in the front, to smooth out the aggressive steering, and a thinner in the middle, to smooth out the acceleration and punch, so 7000-5000-3000.

Diffs can make you fast or slow. Everyone has their own driving style, and it is good to try different diff combinations for oneself, to see what feels best, and what is the fastest combination. Normally thinner oils will make the car easier to drive. On slippery, bumpy tracks thinner oils are better. On smooth high traction tracks thicker diffs will be better. Thicker diffs give more acceleration, more cornerspeed, and help to make the car more stable on a high traction surface. On special tracks, that are really smooth and high traction, asphalt like, the car will be a lot more stable and fast in the corners if all diff oils are made thicker. Front and centre by about 10000 compared to the normal set up, and rear maybe 5000. Because the track is so smooth you can get away with it.

The front diff mainly affects steering on and off power, and acceleration, the centre diff affects the way the car handles bumps, and acceleration, and the rear diff affects rear traction and steering. Next I will try to explain what each diff does when tuned separately.



4.3 Front Differential

Using thicker oil will make the car turn more on power, out of the corner, and accelerate faster. The car will turn less into the corner, as off power steering is reduced. It will feel more stable, and can be easier to drive in bumps. If the car is twitchy and feels inconsistent on a rough track, a good idea is to try a thicker front diff. A thinner front oil will have the opposite effect, less on power steering, more off power steering, less stability. Usually the oils used in the front diff range from 3000-15000. 5000-7000 is a safe bet on all tracks, and that’s what I use most of the time when I’m using a standard front diff. With THE Car it is also possible to use thicker oils as it has so much offpower steering, so 10-15k will work on most tracks.



4.4 Centre Differential

Using thicker oil in the centre diff makes the car accelerate a lot faster, but it can be harder to drive in bumps and on slippery tracks. It gets a bit confusing though, because if the track is soft, and it gets really bumpy, a thicker centre diff can actually make the car skip over the tops of the bumps, and thus it will actually be better and faster. But most of the time, thinner centre diffs are used for blown out tracks. A thick centre diff oil will also make it easier to get on power steering, as the rear of the car can be made to slide out when on power. The centre diff usually has the thickest oil of the three diffs, or the same as the front. The oils used normally range from 3000-20000. A safe bet is 5000-7000. I normally never go below this, because I feel that I loose too much acceleration, specially the first ”snap” when I get on the gas. And I don’t either use thicker oils than 10000 because I’m so aggressive on the throttle, I would fly off the track. Normally, if a thicker centre diff oil is used, the front diff also needs to have thicker oil, so the car still remains stable under acceleration.



4.5 Rear Differential

The rear diff set up is the one that varies the most between different drivers. This is because the rear diff has a big effect on rear traction, and each driver’s driving style determines what oil should be used. It is vital to get the right rear diff oil that suits your driving style, otherwise you will only be fighting your car. Some years ago it seemed like everyone always used the thinnest possible rear diff oils. I think it was because people were used to electric offroad. A thin rear diff oil will make the car have a lot of steering into corners, the car is easy to control when accelerating, even if it’s bumpy. So it seems like the way to go right? Yes and no. One drawback is that the rear can lose its traction suddenly. It will have traction, and then lose it all at once when entering a corner. A thin rear diff suits drivers that brake before a corner, keep a tight line around it, then accelerate hard after the corner, towards the next obstacle. This is not how I drive. I like to control the car a lot with the throttle. A thicker rear diff oil will make this possible, it will be possible to steer the car with the throttle. You can enter the corner aggressively because the rear is very stable, and won’t suddenly lose its traction, it will start sliding in a controllable way. After braking, it is possible to drift on throttle, like a rally car through the corner and onto the next straight. I’m on the gas before the corner, and halfway in the corner, or sometimes even before halfway I’m already on the gas hard.

The thick oil makes the rear tires pull more evenly. On a slippery or bumpy track the car can be too hard to drive. The rear diff oil is normally the thinnest of the three diffs, or the same as the others. The oils used range from 1000-7000. 3000 is a safe bet, no matter what your driving style, or what the track conditions. I nearly always use 4000-5000.
RC*PHREAK is offline  
Old 09-15-2012, 01:23 PM
  #39327  
Tech Regular
 
rcus3r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: any*cal
Posts: 353
Default Bumber modification

Took 2x of the bars with red arrow (from broken bumpers); Dremeled off some plastic; installed with foam spacers giving it about 1/8 inch of give. The bumper has good flex up and down, left and right, but not sure how it will handle a square on collision.

Took a couple of minor tumbles and survived. Haven't had a collision yet, so time will tell.

Thinking about slotting them to make them flexible.

Losi 1/10 TEN-SCTE ARR 4x4 Short Course Truck Thread-bumper.jpg
rcus3r is offline  
Old 09-15-2012, 02:25 PM
  #39328  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (8)
 
caguilar4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 138
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

Wow! Great help! Thanks a lot this will become my diff bible! Just finished my diffs, will test them out tomorrow at the sunday races.
caguilar4 is offline  
Old 09-15-2012, 11:07 PM
  #39329  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (24)
 
mysupratoy94's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Sunny California
Posts: 733
Trader Rating: 24 (100%+)
Default

I just installed the TLR kit and flex chassis. Should I spend the extra money to get the tlr chasis brases or use the stock plastic ones? A buddy of mine gave me a strc aluminum brace for the front... Not sure if I should use it or not. I run on a high traction indoor clay track if that helps. Thanks in advance.
mysupratoy94 is offline  
Old 09-15-2012, 11:45 PM
  #39330  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
snaketaco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: North Glendale, AZ Las Vegas, NV.
Posts: 391
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

Bought scte used. How do I know what type of spring are on it? I don' see any thing to identify them.
snaketaco is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.