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Old 12-09-2010, 11:19 AM
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I have a development question for Dyno (or whoever knows), why the reverse-gullwing front arm shape? I get that the rear allows for drive shaft clearance ().[/QUOTE]

The arms are shaped that way so that they could mount the shocks lower, which in turn gives the car a lower center of gravity. They also claim that this helps to manage the airflow over the car at higher speeds.
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The "gull wing" arms allow the shocks/towers to be lowered vertically and lower the CG. The lower towers are less likely to snag and break in a crash also.
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Originally Posted by Dyno Dan
The "gull wing" arms allow the shocks/towers to be lowered vertically and lower the CG. The lower towers are less likely to snag and break in a crash also.
Dan, that is a SEXY car man.......... Sorry if that sounded wierd. It takes a lot for me to get emotional about the design of a car/bike. This one does it for me!

Past designs that have created this same emotion are
Ducati 1098
Aprilia RSV4
Aprilia SXV550 supermoto
Team Durango 4wd Buggy DEX410
Lexus LFA

Just to name a few!

Thats good company in my book!
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Old 12-09-2010, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dyno Dan
The "gull wing" arms allow the shocks/towers to be lowered vertically and lower the CG. The lower towers are less likely to snag and break in a crash also.
My bad....that too! thanks Dyno!
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How do you guys think this buggy would compare to the Kyosho RB5SP2 or other competitive 10 scale buggies?
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Originally Posted by Krio
Reverse gull wing? Looks like a regular gull wing to me.
Well, according to this it would be a inverted (reverse) gull wing. The arm goes down from the inner hinge pin, then back up.
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Old 12-09-2010, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CaseyP
I think the bent arm allows more clearance around the chassis center at a given ride height
lol Casey I don't even understand what you were trying to say? (I read it like 6 times)
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Thanks GhostRider. I have always tried to let function dictate fashion. I am glad you like the styling. I always thought a good design does evoke emotion.
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The Gulwing design comes from Gulwing skateboard trucks from the 1970's and 1980's all the Gordon and Smith guys used to ride them
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Originally Posted by dmatter
The Gulwing design comes from Gulwing skateboard trucks from the 1970's and 1980's all the Gordon and Smith guys used to ride them
Didnt Mercedes make a car with Gulwing doors long before 1970?
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Gull-Wing is reference to a the characteristic SeaGULL-WING shape and yes I think a lot of car manufacturers used the gull wing design long before gullwing trucks came around.

1955 Mercedes 300SL
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider86
Dan, that is a SEXY car man.......... Sorry if that sounded wierd. It takes a lot for me to get emotional about the design of a car/bike. This one does it for me!

Past designs that have created this same emotion are
Ducati 1098
Aprilia RSV4
Aprilia SXV550 supermoto
Team Durango 4wd Buggy DEX410
Lexus LFA

Just to name a few!

Thats good company in my book!
Hi, GhostRider, fellow Blitzer. Are we going to be talking about TLR 22 setups next?
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Originally Posted by BrodieMan
Gull-Wing is reference to a the characteristic SeaGULL-WING shape and yes I think a lot of car manufacturers used the gull wing design long before gullwing trucks came around.

1955 Mercedes 300SL
Yeah and aircraft designers were using gull wing and inverted gull wing designs before that for of all things, aircraft wings. Car manufactures were just copying the styling cues of aircraft because it was the thing to do at the time. Imagine that form following function. The aircraft designers made aircraft wings that way because it worked, car designers made the gull wing doors because it looked cool! On a more thread appropraite note, is it just me or does the 22 seem to have a lot of front droop? I was just watching the Horizon Hobby preview video, and every time Gary picked the car up it seemed like the front arms dropped down really far. I am not saying this is a bad thing, just something I noticed. I guess it might be an illusion due to the shape of the a arms, but it looked like a lot of droop to me.
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That's the first thing that caught my attention in the rc car action video, looks like the 22 will be able to take on the rough 1/8 tracks no worries. Anyone know how much longer the shocks travel is compared to the old 1/10 shocks?? From the Horizon video both shocks look to be the same overall length and appear that they both have very similar travel. Maybe it's just the mid motor setup that is weighing down the front more than rear motor position looking like there is tons of droop. Doubt that the example cars were perfectly setup.

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Gull wings on skateboards, gull wings on Mercedes, gull wings on airplanes.
The best use of gull wings, for thousands of years, at least, has been on actual ...Gulls, by the Big Race Director in the sky, GOD.

But, only one of them will be doing some real flying, and that's the 22!
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