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racerkorer 11-21-2011 01:42 PM

Gens ace Brushless Sensored Motors
 
Hi
Has anybody tried the motors from Gens Ace in the AE SC10...?

ravencr 11-21-2011 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Lansonfloyd (Post 9940289)
IMO the stock steering servo is trash. I had the exact same symptoms, swapped to a modest Hitec digital for $45, and ran into a lot less of a problem. Car still has issues turning while accelerating, but I just figured that was normal for the breed.

That's kind of what I figured. When you say a modest hitec digital, any ideas on what model numbers would work well with essentially a stock SC10 otherwise but not underpowered either? Do I need to look for a specific level of torque or something else?

Chris

ravencr 11-21-2011 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by kc_nitro_rc (Post 9940436)
You need to drill holes in the front tires so the air can pass thru them allowing them to turn.

Are you being serious? :)

Chris

Lansonfloyd 11-21-2011 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by ravencr (Post 9940649)
That's kind of what I figured. When you say a modest hitec digital, any ideas on what model numbers would work well with essentially a stock SC10 otherwise but not underpowered either? Do I need to look for a specific level of torque or something else?

Chris

For me it was the Hitec HS5625MG. $45 at Hobby People locally.

Savox 1258TG would be better by a country mile for only a few bucks more, but you may need to get a BEC, a cap, or some other extra thing to get it to work right. That's because the Savox servo has a lot more amps to pull and the ESC you're running just may not handle it. Still, if you wanted to kick ass and take names, the Savox wins. For me, I only had ~$50 to spend and I wanted one "right now", so the Hitec was for me. I'll probably swap out for the Savox later.

ravencr 11-21-2011 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Lansonfloyd (Post 9941157)
For me it was the Hitec HS5625MG. $45 at Hobby People locally.

Savox 1258TG would be better by a country mile for only a few bucks more, but you may need to get a BEC, a cap, or some other extra thing to get it to work right. That's because the Savox servo has a lot more amps to pull and the ESC you're running just may not handle it. Still, if you wanted to kick ass and take names, the Savox wins. For me, I only had ~$50 to spend and I wanted one "right now", so the Hitec was for me. I'll probably swap out for the Savox later.

Because I'm a complete Newbie, can you explain what a BEC, a cap, and what that other thing may need to be potentially? I hate buying new parts that I'll regret again in the future, because it wasn't quite enough, if that make sense.

Chris

slammin1984 11-21-2011 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by kc_nitro_rc (Post 9938887)
Are you running a 4.5 in your 2wd SC10 or SC10 4x4? A 4.5 is a lot of motor for the 2wd SC10. I put a 6.5 in mine and de-tuned it with my ESC. It's still a lot of motor! Your 8.5 should be perfect unless you are trying to set some speed record out on the Salt Flats of Utah.

dude not cool. I was drinking something when I read this reply and bout choked to death. anyway, I was trying to run it in my 4x4 with a 12t pinion 62t spur 38 pitch. can someone explain what the different pitches do for your vehicle? I figured it was bigger gear for the more weight than a 2wd. and does the bigger pitch put more strain on your motor? and what are the advantages to running either pitch.

HighLife420 11-21-2011 08:37 PM

anyone else having problems stripping wheels with the pins? Ive gone through 3 wheels so far...ive loosened the slipper a ton and it still strips.

brent701 11-21-2011 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by HighLife420 (Post 9942489)
anyone else having problems stripping wheels with the pins? Ive gone through 3 wheels so far...ive loosened the slipper a ton and it still strips.

Upgrade to Hex :)

brent701 11-21-2011 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by ravencr (Post 9942285)
Because I'm a complete Newbie, can you explain what a BEC, a cap, and what that other thing may need to be potentially? I hate buying new parts that I'll regret again in the future, because it wasn't quite enough, if that make sense.

Chris

BEC = Battery Eliminator Circuits
Cap = capacitor It's like a battery. it stores power

the Savox servo draw a lot of amps. which if you turn one lock to lock it will turn the receiver off which makes you lose all power to the truck.
CAP or glitch buster is the cheapest way to go. 6 bucks. I have two in my trucks and they work perfect. I have also ran a BEC. this in a way is the same thing but different

I used a CC BEC and used it to power the servo alone. it was adjustable so I can adjust the speed /TQ of the servo by the voltage 4.8v or 6v .

My 4x4 with a MMP ESC has to have a CAP
My 2wd with a Stock ESC has to have a CAP with the servo
My buggy with a Novak. does not need a add on cap like above. the ESC already has one wired to it.


If need I can post a pic of one installed in my truck

skengines 11-21-2011 09:28 PM

Anyone have the part # for the spacer that goes in the front arm? It says 7922 but that is for the caster block only.

stang 11-21-2011 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by brent701 (Post 9942553)
BEC = Battery Eliminator Circuits
Cap = capacitor It's like a battery. it stores power

the Savox servo draw a lot of amps. which if you turn one lock to lock it will turn the receiver off which makes you lose all power to the truck.
CAP or glitch buster is the cheapest way to go. 6 bucks. I have two in my trucks and they work perfect. I have also ran a BEC. this in a way is the same thing but different

I used a CC BEC and used it to power the servo alone. it was adjustable so I can adjust the speed /TQ of the servo by the voltage 4.8v or 6v .

My 4x4 with a MMP ESC has to have a CAP
My 2wd with a Stock ESC has to have a CAP with the servo
My buggy with a Novak. does not need a add on cap like above. the ESC already has one wired to it.


If need I can post a pic of one installed in my truck

don't spread false info as my savox servo does fine without a cap. its not our fault spektrum can't build there rx's properly like futaba or even traxxas

monty c 11-21-2011 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by stang (Post 9942734)
don't spread false info as my savox servo does fine without a cap. its not our fault spektrum can't build there rx's properly like futaba or even traxxas

i have 2 savox servos, the one in my SC10 with normal sized spektrum reciever has had no issues, the one in my 22 buggy with the micro reciever had issues all the time, i would get about 2 minutes into a run and the whole car would shut down, couldnt figure out what was going on until i started reading about the savox servos being power hungry, installed the cap and problem fixed.....

monty c 11-21-2011 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by HighLife420 (Post 9942489)
anyone else having problems stripping wheels with the pins? Ive gone through 3 wheels so far...ive loosened the slipper a ton and it still strips.

i stripped out a left rear, the nut would keep coming loose and let the wheel spin. keep fresh wheel nuts on hand, seems like the nylon wears out fast and they wont stay tight. i take them off every run to clean the tires and they nylon doesnt last long.

Wild Cherry 11-22-2011 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by HighLife420 (Post 9942489)
anyone else having problems stripping wheels with the pins? Ive gone through 3 wheels so far...ive loosened the slipper a ton and it still strips.

Use the steel wheel nut, make sure they have been kimpled or have little dents on the top on the nut to add pressure to the nylon .

Some don't have these little dents and those do not have the grip you need and can come loose.....

outlawrcgraphic 11-22-2011 03:41 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 9943044)
Use the steel wheel nut, make sure they have been kimpled or have little dents on the top on the nut to add pressure to the nylon .

Some don't have these little dents and those do not have the grip you need and can come loose.....

Also, you could get the Jconcepts wheel nuts. They have serrated edges on the back side. I switched to these, and have not had a problem since. I went through about 8-10 of those nylon locknuts before I switched. They may seem expensive at the time of purchase, but you make that money back pretty quick by saving your wheels.


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