1089LikesTeam Associated B6.1 & B6.1D thread
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Welcome to the B6.1 and B6.1D Wiki page.   Features: Easy-access gear differential Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance 3-gear Laydown Stealth(r) transmission for lower and forward CG Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, standard height Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage Front and rear anti-roll bars limit chassis roll for increased corner speed Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment Lightweight aluminum top shaft Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag) JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included Steel chassis weight Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis   Features: Easy-access ball differential Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance 3-gear Lay Back Stealth(r) transmission for lower and rearward CG Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, long Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage +1 steering block arms optimize feel on dirt tracks Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment Lightweight aluminum top shaft Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag) JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis Setup Sheets and other documentation Setup sheets for both cars: Piston Drills:
Aftermarket Upgrades: Parts List: Reference Guides (courtesy of Ray Munday and Roger M.): 
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03-05-2019, 02:00 PM
#2521
dr_hfuhuhurr... do I know you?
03-05-2019, 05:38 PM
#2522
I'm an Associated guy to the core, raced an original gold tub, so that it why I'm asking on here. What are people using for an
alignment tool? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
alignment tool? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
03-07-2019, 01:47 PM
#2523
Could you post his setup by chance? I’m only seeing his 6.1 setups online and I’m having a hard time finding 6.1d setups for my track conditions.
03-07-2019, 11:46 PM
#2524
All the setup sheets I’m finding online don’t specify whether they’re running the 6.1d rear shock bodies or the 6.1. And on top of it, it seems like every setup sheet with the 6.1d says to run the shorter 6.1 rear tower. Why? Is there a good setup sheet that uses all the stock 6.1d parts without having to mix match other parts?
03-08-2019, 12:20 AM
#2525
Tech Addict
All the setup sheets I’m finding online don’t specify whether they’re running the 6.1d rear shock bodies or the 6.1. And on top of it, it seems like every setup sheet with the 6.1d says to run the shorter 6.1 rear tower. Why? Is there a good setup sheet that uses all the stock 6.1d parts without having to mix match other parts?
Using the exact same springs/oil/piston/stroke/eyelet and switching over to the short bodies and tower made the car react quicker as the weight shift is not as excessive with the slower damping and more pack, doesn't feel as stuck on the back end all the time. It can absorb bigger impacts without slapping as hard with the short shocks too.
Brent Thielke usually uses the tall shock setup, you could look at his setups. I tried short shock setups sheets with the long shocks but it just doesn't drive right to be honest.
03-08-2019, 01:06 AM
#2526
You might go down in pistons to compensate for the larger oil volume, e.g. 1.7 instead of 1.8.
03-08-2019, 01:08 AM
#2527
Tall and short shocks is something I tested recently. I think the additional oil in the taller shock bodies ends up with less pack and softer damping, which would be beneficial for a real bumpy track with smaller jumps. For indoor clay tracks it seems to create a lot of rearward weight shift on throttle which then takes longer to transfer back forward when you need steering for the next corner. It can almost become a seesaw affect if you drive it hard.
Using the exact same springs/oil/piston/stroke/eyelet and switching over to the short bodies and tower made the car react quicker as the weight shift is not as excessive with the slower damping and more pack, doesn't feel as stuck on the back end all the time. It can absorb bigger impacts without slapping as hard with the short shocks too.
Brent Thielke usually uses the tall shock setup, you could look at his setups. I tried short shock setups sheets with the long shocks but it just doesn't drive right to be honest.
Using the exact same springs/oil/piston/stroke/eyelet and switching over to the short bodies and tower made the car react quicker as the weight shift is not as excessive with the slower damping and more pack, doesn't feel as stuck on the back end all the time. It can absorb bigger impacts without slapping as hard with the short shocks too.
Brent Thielke usually uses the tall shock setup, you could look at his setups. I tried short shock setups sheets with the long shocks but it just doesn't drive right to be honest.
03-08-2019, 02:26 AM
#2528
here you go it is listed under the 6.1D but the sheet it's self says 6.1 so not sure which for sure he was running.
03-08-2019, 06:00 AM
#2529
03-08-2019, 11:00 AM
#2531
You need to see the P/N. This may help. I have attached a Microsoft Word Doc of this chart.
FRONTS
Version Color Rate P/N
1 BROWN 2.85 91325
1 BLACK 3.00 91326
2 GREEN 3.10 91830
1 GREEN 3.15 91327
1 WHITE 3.30 91328
2 WHITE 3.40 91831
1 GREY 3.45 91329
1 BLUE 3.60 91330
1 YELLOW 3.75 91331
1 RED 3.90 91332
1 ORANGE 4.05 91333
1 PURPLE 4.20 91334
2 YELLOW 4.30 91834
2 RED 4.60 91835
2 ORANGE 5.10 91836
REARS
2 GREEN 1.80 91837
1 BLACK 1.90 91335
2 GREY 2.00 91839
1 WHITE 2.10 91337
2 BLUE 2.20 91840
2 YELLOW 2.30 91841
1 YELLOW 2.40 91340
FRONTS
Version Color Rate P/N
1 BROWN 2.85 91325
1 BLACK 3.00 91326
2 GREEN 3.10 91830
1 GREEN 3.15 91327
1 WHITE 3.30 91328
2 WHITE 3.40 91831
1 GREY 3.45 91329
1 BLUE 3.60 91330
1 YELLOW 3.75 91331
1 RED 3.90 91332
1 ORANGE 4.05 91333
1 PURPLE 4.20 91334
2 YELLOW 4.30 91834
2 RED 4.60 91835
2 ORANGE 5.10 91836
REARS
2 GREEN 1.80 91837
1 BLACK 1.90 91335
2 GREY 2.00 91839
1 WHITE 2.10 91337
2 BLUE 2.20 91840
2 YELLOW 2.30 91841
1 YELLOW 2.40 91340
03-08-2019, 02:11 PM
#2532
Tech Addict
Thanks for the detailed reply! My track is indoor clay and it’s super high grip right now. I’m running the stock b6.1d tall rear tower but using short body rear shocks. Is that going to give me trouble not matching the long tower to the longer shock bodies? Would you suggest keeping the short shock bodies and buying a short tower?
Last edited by trf211; 03-08-2019 at 02:23 PM.
03-08-2019, 04:11 PM
#2533
Correct me if I’m wrong but by the time you’ve replaced the rear tower, rear shock bodies and changed the layback to lay down transmission, don’t you just have a 6.1 on your hands? Besides the 7mm hex’s? Is there any reason to choose a 6.1d over a 6.1 if you’re in a small, high grip clay track?
03-08-2019, 04:37 PM
#2534
Correct me if I’m wrong but by the time you’ve replaced the rear tower, rear shock bodies and changed the layback to lay down transmission, don’t you just have a 6.1 on your hands? Besides the 7mm hex’s? Is there any reason to choose a 6.1d over a 6.1 if you’re in a small, high grip clay track?
03-08-2019, 05:00 PM
#2535
6.1 = gear diff, sway bars, laydown, short rear shocks, and short rear shock tower.
I have a 6.1d that I put a Xray XB2 gears in a 6.1 gear diff housing.
I have a 6.1d that I put a Xray XB2 gears in a 6.1 gear diff housing.