1089LikesTeam Associated B6.1 & B6.1D thread
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Welcome to the B6.1 and B6.1D Wiki page.   Features: Easy-access gear differential Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance 3-gear Laydown Stealth(r) transmission for lower and forward CG Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, standard height Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage Front and rear anti-roll bars limit chassis roll for increased corner speed Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment Lightweight aluminum top shaft Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag) JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included Steel chassis weight Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis   Features: Easy-access ball differential Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance 3-gear Lay Back Stealth(r) transmission for lower and rearward CG Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, long Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage +1 steering block arms optimize feel on dirt tracks Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment Lightweight aluminum top shaft Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag) JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis Setup Sheets and other documentation Setup sheets for both cars: Piston Drills:
Aftermarket Upgrades: Parts List: Reference Guides (courtesy of Ray Munday and Roger M.): 
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12-12-2018, 06:18 AM
#2146
In a general opinion, Is the MIP puck kit worth the upgrade? I have been toying with picking it it up. Just wondering what everyone’s consensus is on it
12-12-2018, 07:00 AM
#2147
But, don't try to use it on high traction carpet/turf or above a 17.5 stock blinky motor. Neither version of the puck system can withstand that level of grip or power.
12-12-2018, 07:01 AM
#2148
oh really, i read a review at Amain that siad it didnt fit the layback.
Thanks, can you post the working part number of the diff for verification?
can anyone else help verify, or point me in the right direction, really just looking to plug ia gear diff into into my 6.1d to run carpet once a week, for about 8 races, otherwise we race dirt year round, will still be running dirt weekly as well so im hoping to just make a quick swap a couple times a week.
12-12-2018, 07:50 AM
#2149
Differences between these two diffs are that the B6 version has a aluminum cover and metal pins for the planetary gears while the B6.1 version has plastic cover and plastic pins. This makes the B6.1 version about 2 grams lighter than the B6 unit.
Wonder if that one reviewer on AMain didn't know that there are two possible idler gears applicable to switching between the layback vs. laydown tranny cases. Or, maybe didn't know that the B6 gear diff assembly uses spacers on the output shafts; whereas, the B6.1 assembly doesn't need them.
Otherwise, I do trust MOST of the user reviews on AMain Hobbies...LOL
Last edited by Still Bill; 12-12-2018 at 08:02 AM.
12-12-2018, 09:38 AM
#2150
I need to measure the difference between 6.0 to 6.1 gear diff outdrives, I just found out GFRP makes aluminum outdrives for there oval cars for the 6.0/sc10 diff. I love running super lite drivetrains.
12-12-2018, 12:21 PM
#2151
Maybe hidden somewhere here, couple questions on b6.1d, 17.5, clay.
I've been running the Reedy / Maclan HV 3600, slim batteries. They weigh about 150g. I enjoy the lower center, and lighter weight. Allows weight to be put in other places.
But some of the racers tell me that the Low Profile batteries are not as fast? They loose power before the end of the race? They say I am better off with a full size HV 4800 battery at 200g?
Fans..... It is rather cold around here, this time of year. No fan, still running under 140 degree on the Motor. But I ready where in Stock racing, you really want to run a fan? Any good rule on when to Fan, or not to Fan?
I've been running the Reedy / Maclan HV 3600, slim batteries. They weigh about 150g. I enjoy the lower center, and lighter weight. Allows weight to be put in other places.
But some of the racers tell me that the Low Profile batteries are not as fast? They loose power before the end of the race? They say I am better off with a full size HV 4800 battery at 200g?
Fans..... It is rather cold around here, this time of year. No fan, still running under 140 degree on the Motor. But I ready where in Stock racing, you really want to run a fan? Any good rule on when to Fan, or not to Fan?
12-12-2018, 12:55 PM
#2152
Maybe hidden somewhere here, couple questions on b6.1d, 17.5, clay.
I've been running the Reedy / Maclan HV 3600, slim batteries. They weigh about 150g. I enjoy the lower center, and lighter weight. Allows weight to be put in other places.
But some of the racers tell me that the Low Profile batteries are not as fast? They loose power before the end of the race? They say I am better off with a full size HV 4800 battery at 200g?
Fans..... It is rather cold around here, this time of year. No fan, still running under 140 degree on the Motor. But I ready where in Stock racing, you really want to run a fan? Any good rule on when to Fan, or not to Fan?
I've been running the Reedy / Maclan HV 3600, slim batteries. They weigh about 150g. I enjoy the lower center, and lighter weight. Allows weight to be put in other places.
But some of the racers tell me that the Low Profile batteries are not as fast? They loose power before the end of the race? They say I am better off with a full size HV 4800 battery at 200g?
Fans..... It is rather cold around here, this time of year. No fan, still running under 140 degree on the Motor. But I ready where in Stock racing, you really want to run a fan? Any good rule on when to Fan, or not to Fan?
Usually when a stock buggy slows noticeably in a run it is because of motor heat weakening the rotor's magnetic strength. If you are not noticing this fade, you don't need a fan.
12-12-2018, 01:58 PM
#2153
I believe what they're referring to with the battery suggestion is that a lower mah battery will discharge lower into it's voltage curve than a higher mah battery over a given amount of time/load. I rarely pull more than 1,000mah from a pack in a 17.5/5 minute run. Even with the low-profile pack, that's less than 30% of the available capacity. I would think the difference would be very small between the two, unless you're running super high grip or longer runs, and pulling many more amps. There are plenty of top level modified guys running low-profile packs in modified, and they're pulling at least twice as many amps in a run as we do with stock motors.
Usually when a stock buggy slows noticeably in a run it is because of motor heat weakening the rotor's magnetic strength. If you are not noticing this fade, you don't need a fan.
Usually when a stock buggy slows noticeably in a run it is because of motor heat weakening the rotor's magnetic strength. If you are not noticing this fade, you don't need a fan.
12-12-2018, 02:15 PM
#2154
Tech Initiate
With the Associated version of the MIP puck system (the Associated/MIP and MIP products are different), I have really experienced the pick up in acceleration of the lightened drivetrain on our indoor clay track in Reno, NV.
But, don't try to use it on high traction carpet/turf or above a 17.5 stock blinky motor. Neither version of the puck system can withstand that level of grip or power.
But, don't try to use it on high traction carpet/turf or above a 17.5 stock blinky motor. Neither version of the puck system can withstand that level of grip or power.
12-12-2018, 02:35 PM
#2155
Tech Apprentice
Bulkhead
Do you need to use the metal plate in front of the bulkhead when running aluminium or brass versions?
12-12-2018, 02:37 PM
#2156
With the abundance of power a modified motor provides I'm sure it's less of a problem (we used to run far less efficient brushed modifiers on 2000mah nicds), but you know how the stock guys are. Every gram.
12-12-2018, 02:48 PM
#2157
Maybe hidden somewhere here, couple questions on b6.1d, 17.5, clay.
I've been running the Reedy / Maclan HV 3600, slim batteries. They weigh about 150g. I enjoy the lower center, and lighter weight. Allows weight to be put in other places.
But some of the racers tell me that the Low Profile batteries are not as fast? They loose power before the end of the race? They say I am better off with a full size HV 4800 battery at 200g?
Fans..... It is rather cold around here, this time of year. No fan, still running under 140 degree on the Motor. But I ready where in Stock racing, you really want to run a fan? Any good rule on when to Fan, or not to Fan?
I've been running the Reedy / Maclan HV 3600, slim batteries. They weigh about 150g. I enjoy the lower center, and lighter weight. Allows weight to be put in other places.
But some of the racers tell me that the Low Profile batteries are not as fast? They loose power before the end of the race? They say I am better off with a full size HV 4800 battery at 200g?
Fans..... It is rather cold around here, this time of year. No fan, still running under 140 degree on the Motor. But I ready where in Stock racing, you really want to run a fan? Any good rule on when to Fan, or not to Fan?
I always run a fan in stock because the motor temps can get up there and you always want your motor running as cool as possible.
PS when you run a fan it pulls some of the juice from the battery so the larger pack/fan combo go hand in hand for me.
12-12-2018, 06:34 PM
#2158
With the Associated version of the MIP puck system (the Associated/MIP and MIP products are different), I have really experienced the pick up in acceleration of the lightened drivetrain on our indoor clay track in Reno, NV.
But, don't try to use it on high traction carpet/turf or above a 17.5 stock blinky motor. Neither version of the puck system can withstand that level of grip or power.
But, don't try to use it on high traction carpet/turf or above a 17.5 stock blinky motor. Neither version of the puck system can withstand that level of grip or power.
12-12-2018, 09:41 PM
#2159
12-12-2018, 10:50 PM
#2160
first of all if you run carpet ...forget about it...it will snap even with stock motors. I had it in my B6d racing on dirt. It does feel different but you have to get used to it ...pretty tricky when you race on a wet track... I wish I did not spend all that money for it. But on clay, it might be better..... considering your tire prep is on point.