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Old 08-16-2016, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RC4413
The rotor is a 12.5 3 line. Please let me know if there is a different rotor I should try. Thank you in advance.
If you're on the new CRC black carpet you may want to try a 12.5 4 line.
If it's the old gray carpet you may even be able to drop to a 2 line. Basically the more grip the stronger rotor.
I'm really surprised you're up to 45* on the endbell. Typically 25* on the endbell is usually pretty good with a 4.8 to 4.9 RO on a 140'RL Have you tried something close to that? At 45* on the endbell did you try going down to 4.2? The other thing I'm thinking about is maybe keeping the RO but drop 2* (1/2 line on endbell).
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Old 08-16-2016, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by toddmanley
I can't remember 100% but I might have been geared at 39/96.
I would try the 45* timing or atleast close to it and start playing with gears. Maybe drop a few prions and gradually work your way up.

Let me make a few calls and see what the guys used at the ROAR Nats.
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Originally Posted by sg1
If you're on the new CRC black carpet you may want to try a 12.5 4 line.
If it's the old gray carpet you may even be able to drop to a 2 line. Basically the more grip the stronger rotor.
I'm really surprised you're up to 45* on the endbell. Typically 25* on the endbell is usually pretty good with a 4.8 to 4.9 RO on a 140'RL Have you tried something close to that? At 45* on the endbell did you try going down to 4.2? The other thing I'm thinking about is maybe keeping the RO but drop 2* (1/2 line on endbell).
Thanks for the quick response! We are on the old gray carpet. I did not try either of those combinations, however, I deff will try them the next race. Our next race is in a month ... So it will be awhile before I am able to provide feedback.

With everything mentioned, we did finish 1st in the A main and put down the fastest lap during the day. The motor performed great, and I know there is a lot left ... We just need more track time to find it. As always, thanks for everything.
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Sorry for tge delay. Got back from ROAR Nats and had to catch up on all the oders from that week.

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I will have all the gearing and timing info for you we ran when I get home from work today.

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The rotors are very strong and will give you a thump or drag feel because of that. Had one customer send me a motor back for same reason and everything was fine. I will be more than happy to check it out for you.
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Sorry for the delay. Got back from ROAR Nats and had to catch up on all the orders from that week.

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I will have all the gearing and timing info for you we ran when I get home from work today.

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The rotors are very strong and will give you a thump or drag feel because of that. Had one customer send me a motor back for same reason and everything was fine. I will be more than happy to check it out for you.
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Old 08-17-2016, 11:25 AM
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Thanks John I appreciate the offer to check it out. I took it apart last night and found nothing wrong. No debris other than normal fuzz and the bearings spun perfect and felt good on the rotor. I oiled the bearings and put it all back together and at this point think I think something else was happening.
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Thanks - can't wait to hear the specifics.
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Old 08-17-2016, 06:18 PM
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Here is a range of gearing and timing we ran at the ROAR Off Road Nats held at Hobby Plex

B5M/B6/Xray XB4 2wd/Kyosho RB6 17.5 69/30 timing ranged from 38 to 45 degrees of timing (different drivers liked different timing)

T5M 81/27 to 29 and 76/27 Kyosho RT6 timing 30 to 40 degrees

SC5M 81/28-30 and Kyosho SC6 78/27-29 Timing 30 to 40 degrees

All settings were based on different drivers.

What is the size of your track and how is the Bite?
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Our bite ranges from mid to high bite, but lately it's been more middle of the road. We used to run slicks but it's been a tread-friendly track for the past ~3 months (clay compound Electrons have been the favorites for buggies). I don't know the total length of the track but it has 5 180* turns and would probably be a small/medium sized track.
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Just wanted to give a big thanks to John and Wayne and TSR for amazing products as usual! Last weekend John Wiita and I traveled to Dallas for the Fullthrottle Championship and we were able to put our TSR powered cars on the podium!!

Results:
Stock 12th
1st - John Wiita - TSR Team Driver
2nd - Kevin Van Ert - TSR Team Driver

Mod 12th
3rd - John Wiita - TSR Team Driver (running 6.5 blinky)
4th - Kevin Van Ert - TSR Team Driver (running 6.5 blinky)

Our Team Scream power was on point all weekend! John and I both ran 4 line rotors (~1600) timed at between 38-42 degrees.

Thanks again John and Wayne!
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Old 08-19-2016, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedd
Josh-n-ya was wondering how much faster these 25.5 motors are compared to say like the Motiv Motors?? make a purchase on two 25.5 motors and trying to do my homework..

thanks, Jedd
At NORCAR's Summer Slam there were TSR, Novak, and Motive motors in F1 and VTA. All the motors could produce close to the same hot lap, but the TSR was stronger during the run. In VTA the TSR was almost .3 faster the last 30 seconds and in F1 .1/.2 faster the last minute.
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Old 08-19-2016, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedd
Josh-n-ya was wondering how much faster these 25.5 motors are compared to say like the Motiv Motors?? make a purchase on two 25.5 motors and trying to do my homework..

thanks, Jedd
I had to read your post twice. I was wondering? Or if you were wondering. Lol!
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What setup am i looking for in my usgt with the 21.5?
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Old 08-20-2016, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MontanaMaxx
What setup am i looking for in my usgt with the 21.5?
Assuming its a 4line rotor I'd start at the 25 line on the can and 3.6-3.9 rollout depending on track size.

If it's a 3 line, go up another line in timing and drop a pinion or two. That should get you close.
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Originally Posted by nwagner
Assuming its a 4line rotor I'd start at the 25 line on the can and 3.6-3.9 rollout depending on track size.

If it's a 3 line, go up another line in timing and drop a pinion or two. That should get you close.
Its 3line im pretty sure waiting for my 4lines to come but thanks
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