$28.00 for Byrons race 3000 fuel?
04-15-2014, 05:22 PM
#32
04-15-2014, 07:34 PM
#35
If $30 for something that lasts you 2 months is too much for you you're in the wrong hobby. When's the last time you bought tires for your bike? Most people whine about paying $260 for four tires and you pay that for 2. And if you've ever thought about racing motorcycles, a set of race tires will set you back about $450
Last edited by mtpocketsracing; 04-15-2014 at 07:48 PM.
04-15-2014, 08:41 PM
#36
Not sure what brand of fuel you've been buying or where you get it but all 30% I've ever seen is right about $30-34.
If $30 for something that lasts you 2 months is too much for you you're in the wrong hobby. When's the last time you bought tires for your bike? Most people whine about paying $260 for four tires and you pay that for 2. And if you've ever thought about racing motorcycles, a set of race tires will set you back about $450
If $30 for something that lasts you 2 months is too much for you you're in the wrong hobby. When's the last time you bought tires for your bike? Most people whine about paying $260 for four tires and you pay that for 2. And if you've ever thought about racing motorcycles, a set of race tires will set you back about $450
04-16-2014, 02:07 AM
#37
I think you've established who the joke is around here.
04-16-2014, 02:21 AM
#38
30% has been around $28 a gallon for almost 15 years now, what's the problem? Sure sometimes it drops to 24 and sometimes a nitro plant blows up or shuts down and it shoots up to 35 but on average, it's been around 28 for a long time.
Around 2000-2002 I was getting fuel by the pallet to sell at the track. My cost after shipping (truck freight) was about 18 a gallon and I sold it for 22. At the time, hobby shops in the area only carried Blue Thunder at 26 and OD at 30.
Around 2000-2002 I was getting fuel by the pallet to sell at the track. My cost after shipping (truck freight) was about 18 a gallon and I sold it for 22. At the time, hobby shops in the area only carried Blue Thunder at 26 and OD at 30.
04-16-2014, 03:14 PM
#39
I have two HobbyTown USA's near me... exactly one hour apart from each other.
For Byrons 3000:
One HobbyTown USA charges $31/gal + 10% Tax
Other HobbyTown USA charges $24/gal + 7.5% Tax
You might try looking online for fuel. If you find some place that sells fuel in bulk discount quantities of quarts, there is generally no hazmat fees applied since they're quarts and not gallons.
For Byrons 3000:
One HobbyTown USA charges $31/gal + 10% Tax
Other HobbyTown USA charges $24/gal + 7.5% Tax
You might try looking online for fuel. If you find some place that sells fuel in bulk discount quantities of quarts, there is generally no hazmat fees applied since they're quarts and not gallons.
04-16-2014, 04:05 PM
#40
I charge $25 for Byrons 30% I feel that it's an honest price.
I have seen some greedy shops that's way out of line on it.
Bottom line is run what you want and what you can afford.
Fuel prices can be different depending on where your local shop buys it from. Horizon Hobby charges more wholesale than dealing direct with Byrons but of course Horizon would rather promote Nitrotane than anything else.
I have seen some greedy shops that's way out of line on it.
Bottom line is run what you want and what you can afford.
Fuel prices can be different depending on where your local shop buys it from. Horizon Hobby charges more wholesale than dealing direct with Byrons but of course Horizon would rather promote Nitrotane than anything else.
04-16-2014, 05:49 PM
#41
Shop A (cheap Byrons) is located in a county with a population of 300,000... with three hobby shops all located inside that same county competing against each other.
Shop B (expensive Byrons) is located in a county with a population of 415,000... with no other hobby shops at all in the entire county.
Between both of these hobby shops is an entire county with a population of 190,000, that has no hobby shop in it at all. The time of traveling and rising gas prices defeat any purpose of people driving the hour to Shop A, other than the principle of supporting the cheaper shop.
The best advice is when you find cheap gas, stock up on it.
04-17-2014, 07:43 AM
#42
You really have no clue what your talking about. Do you think owning a hobby shop is free? My monthly overhead expenses are $15,000 a month for 2800 sq feet with just 2 employees. Can you imagine what the monthly expenses for A main hobbies is with hundreds of employees and 100,000 square feet? Net profits at the end of the month are about 4% of total revenues and only if you do enough business to cover the expenses. It works out to PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR! And that's just the shops that are lucky enough to get that far. I wish it was as cut and dry as you seem to think it is. Business people who know what I am talking about understand how good $28 a gallon is for fuel. You are praising the prices for Bones fuel at $30 a gallon but in reality it is still more than the $28 your LHS is charging you.
04-17-2014, 08:25 AM
#43
You really have no clue what your talking about. Do you think owning a hobby shop is free? My monthly overhead expenses are $15,000 a month for 2800 sq feet with just 2 employees. Can you imagine what the monthly expenses for A main hobbies is with hundreds of employees and 100,000 square feet? Net profits at the end of the month are about 4% of total revenues and only if you do enough business to cover the expenses. It works out to PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR! And that's just the shops that are lucky enough to get that far. I wish it was as cut and dry as you seem to think it is. Business people who know what I am talking about understand how good $28 a gallon is for fuel. You are praising the prices for Bones fuel at $30 a gallon but in reality it is still more than the $28 your LHS is charging you.
A 4% profit margin is actually pretty good in the Hobby business IMO. It seems to me that the most successful Hobby Shop businesses operate on the "Sam Walton" theory of economics; high volume and low margin. If they can make $11 per gallon of fuel then good on them!
I would rather them charge more for some of the more common, low cost consumables and provide large ticket items at just above cost (or at cost when possible).
James: $15k in monthly overhead? You must be paying yourself to much
