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$28.00 for Byrons race 3000 fuel?

Old 04-15-2014, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg B View Post
The sad part is, the dealer selling it for $28 a gallon still isn't making much considering he is the fella with the overhead.
Exactly

I order fuel for our local scene , usually 10-12 cases at a time , I dont do it to make money , do it to keep everybody running the best fuel on the planet
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kaptain crash View Post
. Seems like the best deal is Bones brew, 30 bucks shipped to your door.
I ran it all last year. My first order had some leakage and he sent me 4 new quarts. This first class customer service.
So yes this year will be more Bones.....
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 18to88 View Post
I ran it all last year. My first order had some leakage and he sent me 4 new quarts. This first class customer service.
So yes this year will be more Bones.....
For 30 bucks a gallon to your door. I'll support the little guy. As big as Byrons is, their is no reason for them to charge that price. Its simple, we are the guy's paying for them to sponsor racers and races.
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Byrons fuel is the only fuel on the market that is hermetically sealed.
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kaptain crash View Post
For 30 bucks a gallon to your door. I'll support the little guy. As big as Byrons is, their is no reason for them to charge that price. Its simple, we are the guy's paying for them to sponsor racers and races.
Not sure what brand of fuel you've been buying or where you get it but all 30% I've ever seen is right about $30-34.

If $30 for something that lasts you 2 months is too much for you you're in the wrong hobby. When's the last time you bought tires for your bike? Most people whine about paying $260 for four tires and you pay that for 2. And if you've ever thought about racing motorcycles, a set of race tires will set you back about $450

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Originally Posted by mtpocketsracing View Post
Not sure what brand of fuel you've been buying or where you get it but all 30% I've ever seen is right about $30-34.

If $30 for something that lasts you 2 months is too much for you you're in the wrong hobby. When's the last time you bought tires for your bike? Most people whine about paying $260 for four tires and you pay that for 2. And if you've ever thought about racing motorcycles, a set of race tires will set you back about $450
2 MONTHS from one gal. your a joke dude!
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I think you've established who the joke is around here.
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30% has been around $28 a gallon for almost 15 years now, what's the problem? Sure sometimes it drops to 24 and sometimes a nitro plant blows up or shuts down and it shoots up to 35 but on average, it's been around 28 for a long time.

Around 2000-2002 I was getting fuel by the pallet to sell at the track. My cost after shipping (truck freight) was about 18 a gallon and I sold it for 22. At the time, hobby shops in the area only carried Blue Thunder at 26 and OD at 30.
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Old 04-16-2014, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rsickles View Post
I have two HobbyTown USA's near me... exactly one hour apart from each other.

For Byrons 3000:
One HobbyTown USA charges $31/gal + 10% Tax
Other HobbyTown USA charges $24/gal + 7.5% Tax



You might try looking online for fuel. If you find some place that sells fuel in bulk discount quantities of quarts, there is generally no hazmat fees applied since they're quarts and not gallons.
The guy that's charging you $31/gal...is only making $11/gal from you...only penny's my a$$.....
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Old 04-16-2014, 05:05 PM
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I charge $25 for Byrons 30% I feel that it's an honest price.

I have seen some greedy shops that's way out of line on it.

Bottom line is run what you want and what you can afford.

Fuel prices can be different depending on where your local shop buys it from. Horizon Hobby charges more wholesale than dealing direct with Byrons but of course Horizon would rather promote Nitrotane than anything else.
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Originally Posted by kaptain crash View Post
The guy that's charging you $31/gal...is only making $11/gal from you...only penny's my a$$.....
I don't know/remember what the exact cost of Byrons is for HTown, but you are correct. The reason is because he has a monopoly for brick-n-mortar stores in the area.

Shop A (cheap Byrons) is located in a county with a population of 300,000... with three hobby shops all located inside that same county competing against each other.
Shop B (expensive Byrons) is located in a county with a population of 415,000... with no other hobby shops at all in the entire county.

Between both of these hobby shops is an entire county with a population of 190,000, that has no hobby shop in it at all. The time of traveling and rising gas prices defeat any purpose of people driving the hour to Shop A, other than the principle of supporting the cheaper shop.

The best advice is when you find cheap gas, stock up on it.
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Originally Posted by kaptain crash View Post
The guy that's charging you $31/gal...is only making $11/gal from you...only penny's my a$$.....
You really have no clue what your talking about. Do you think owning a hobby shop is free? My monthly overhead expenses are $15,000 a month for 2800 sq feet with just 2 employees. Can you imagine what the monthly expenses for A main hobbies is with hundreds of employees and 100,000 square feet? Net profits at the end of the month are about 4% of total revenues and only if you do enough business to cover the expenses. It works out to PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR! And that's just the shops that are lucky enough to get that far. I wish it was as cut and dry as you seem to think it is. Business people who know what I am talking about understand how good $28 a gallon is for fuel. You are praising the prices for Bones fuel at $30 a gallon but in reality it is still more than the $28 your LHS is charging you.
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Originally Posted by Jaz240 View Post
You really have no clue what your talking about. Do you think owning a hobby shop is free? My monthly overhead expenses are $15,000 a month for 2800 sq feet with just 2 employees. Can you imagine what the monthly expenses for A main hobbies is with hundreds of employees and 100,000 square feet? Net profits at the end of the month are about 4% of total revenues and only if you do enough business to cover the expenses. It works out to PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR! And that's just the shops that are lucky enough to get that far. I wish it was as cut and dry as you seem to think it is. Business people who know what I am talking about understand how good $28 a gallon is for fuel. You are praising the prices for Bones fuel at $30 a gallon but in reality it is still more than the $28 your LHS is charging you.
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A 4% profit margin is actually pretty good in the Hobby business IMO. It seems to me that the most successful Hobby Shop businesses operate on the "Sam Walton" theory of economics; high volume and low margin. If they can make $11 per gallon of fuel then good on them!

I would rather them charge more for some of the more common, low cost consumables and provide large ticket items at just above cost (or at cost when possible).

James: $15k in monthly overhead? You must be paying yourself to much
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I don't even get paid Dan! I take some here and there is there is leftovers! eBay/PayPal/credit card and people working to get the online store open and keep ebay as current as possible take most of that $15K
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Can we delete this thread now?

Oh, and you can always run 1/5th scale... cars are just as cheap as 1/8th, but use gasoline which is only $4/gallon despite Obama's best efforts.
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