2LikesXray T3 2011
12-16-2010, 09:14 PM
#1081
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
I have a few dumb questions but hopefully you guys can help without too much laughing....
I am building my T3 '11 which is my first Xray car. Most of my other TCs are Team Associated (TC3s, TC4s and a TC5). Can I use my plastic Associated droop guage to set the droop on this car or do I need the Hudy blocks and droop guage to get an accurate setting? Also, I have lots of Associated shock oil and my LHS does not carry any Xray stuff. Should I just use the oil from the kit or would I be better off using some of the other shock oil I already have (everything from 25-45wt). If so, does anyone have any reccomendations on which weight I should use for the front and rear shocks? I also have lots of Associated spring sets from my other TCs, should I stick with the stock springs or should I experiment with some of the other springs I already have (if they fit)? Will I be struck by lightning for putting Associated stuff in my new Xray?
... and do I need to tear down and rebuild the rear diff that came in the kit or is it ready to go out of the box? It feels great but I didn't know if I am supposed to pull it apart and rebuild it or just run it and adjust it out of the box.
I'll buy all of the right tools/parts/fluids sooner or later, but for now I broke the bank just buying this kit so this is what I have to work with. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I will be running a stock 17.5 setup with rubber tires on carpet on this track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBVQvnb9Z6c
I am building my T3 '11 which is my first Xray car. Most of my other TCs are Team Associated (TC3s, TC4s and a TC5). Can I use my plastic Associated droop guage to set the droop on this car or do I need the Hudy blocks and droop guage to get an accurate setting? Also, I have lots of Associated shock oil and my LHS does not carry any Xray stuff. Should I just use the oil from the kit or would I be better off using some of the other shock oil I already have (everything from 25-45wt). If so, does anyone have any reccomendations on which weight I should use for the front and rear shocks? I also have lots of Associated spring sets from my other TCs, should I stick with the stock springs or should I experiment with some of the other springs I already have (if they fit)? Will I be struck by lightning for putting Associated stuff in my new Xray?
... and do I need to tear down and rebuild the rear diff that came in the kit or is it ready to go out of the box? It feels great but I didn't know if I am supposed to pull it apart and rebuild it or just run it and adjust it out of the box.
I'll buy all of the right tools/parts/fluids sooner or later, but for now I broke the bank just buying this kit so this is what I have to work with. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I will be running a stock 17.5 setup with rubber tires on carpet on this track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBVQvnb9Z6c
12-16-2010, 09:51 PM
#1082
AMAZING work by the way
It might be necessary to go 0.5mm wider to run 52's on the rear.
12-17-2010, 05:48 AM
#1084
I have a few dumb questions but hopefully you guys can help without too much laughing....
I am building my T3 '11 which is my first Xray car. Most of my other TCs are Team Associated (TC3s, TC4s and a TC5). Can I use my plastic Associated droop guage to set the droop on this car or do I need the Hudy blocks and droop guage to get an accurate setting? Also, I have lots of Associated shock oil and my LHS does not carry any Xray stuff. Should I just use the oil from the kit or would I be better off using some of the other shock oil I already have (everything from 25-45wt). If so, does anyone have any reccomendations on which weight I should use for the front and rear shocks? I also have lots of Associated spring sets from my other TCs, should I stick with the stock springs or should I experiment with some of the other springs I already have (if they fit)? Will I be struck by lightning for putting Associated stuff in my new Xray?
... and do I need to tear down and rebuild the rear diff that came in the kit or is it ready to go out of the box? It feels great but I didn't know if I am supposed to pull it apart and rebuild it or just run it and adjust it out of the box.
I'll buy all of the right tools/parts/fluids sooner or later, but for now I broke the bank just buying this kit so this is what I have to work with. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I will be running a stock 17.5 setup with rubber tires on carpet on this track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBVQvnb9Z6c
I am building my T3 '11 which is my first Xray car. Most of my other TCs are Team Associated (TC3s, TC4s and a TC5). Can I use my plastic Associated droop guage to set the droop on this car or do I need the Hudy blocks and droop guage to get an accurate setting? Also, I have lots of Associated shock oil and my LHS does not carry any Xray stuff. Should I just use the oil from the kit or would I be better off using some of the other shock oil I already have (everything from 25-45wt). If so, does anyone have any reccomendations on which weight I should use for the front and rear shocks? I also have lots of Associated spring sets from my other TCs, should I stick with the stock springs or should I experiment with some of the other springs I already have (if they fit)? Will I be struck by lightning for putting Associated stuff in my new Xray?
... and do I need to tear down and rebuild the rear diff that came in the kit or is it ready to go out of the box? It feels great but I didn't know if I am supposed to pull it apart and rebuild it or just run it and adjust it out of the box.
I'll buy all of the right tools/parts/fluids sooner or later, but for now I broke the bank just buying this kit so this is what I have to work with. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I will be running a stock 17.5 setup with rubber tires on carpet on this track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBVQvnb9Z6c
Then start experimenting with changes.
Skiddins
12-17-2010, 06:32 AM
#1085
Tech Initiate
12-17-2010, 12:07 PM
#1086
I have a few dumb questions but hopefully you guys can help without too much laughing....
I am building my T3 '11 which is my first Xray car. Most of my other TCs are Team Associated (TC3s, TC4s and a TC5). Can I use my plastic Associated droop guage to set the droop on this car or do I need the Hudy blocks and droop guage to get an accurate setting? Also, I have lots of Associated shock oil and my LHS does not carry any Xray stuff. Should I just use the oil from the kit or would I be better off using some of the other shock oil I already have (everything from 25-45wt). If so, does anyone have any reccomendations on which weight I should use for the front and rear shocks? I also have lots of Associated spring sets from my other TCs, should I stick with the stock springs or should I experiment with some of the other springs I already have (if they fit)? Will I be struck by lightning for putting Associated stuff in my new Xray?
... and do I need to tear down and rebuild the rear diff that came in the kit or is it ready to go out of the box? It feels great but I didn't know if I am supposed to pull it apart and rebuild it or just run it and adjust it out of the box.
I'll buy all of the right tools/parts/fluids sooner or later, but for now I broke the bank just buying this kit so this is what I have to work with. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I will be running a stock 17.5 setup with rubber tires on carpet on this track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBVQvnb9Z6c
I am building my T3 '11 which is my first Xray car. Most of my other TCs are Team Associated (TC3s, TC4s and a TC5). Can I use my plastic Associated droop guage to set the droop on this car or do I need the Hudy blocks and droop guage to get an accurate setting? Also, I have lots of Associated shock oil and my LHS does not carry any Xray stuff. Should I just use the oil from the kit or would I be better off using some of the other shock oil I already have (everything from 25-45wt). If so, does anyone have any reccomendations on which weight I should use for the front and rear shocks? I also have lots of Associated spring sets from my other TCs, should I stick with the stock springs or should I experiment with some of the other springs I already have (if they fit)? Will I be struck by lightning for putting Associated stuff in my new Xray?
... and do I need to tear down and rebuild the rear diff that came in the kit or is it ready to go out of the box? It feels great but I didn't know if I am supposed to pull it apart and rebuild it or just run it and adjust it out of the box.
I'll buy all of the right tools/parts/fluids sooner or later, but for now I broke the bank just buying this kit so this is what I have to work with. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I will be running a stock 17.5 setup with rubber tires on carpet on this track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBVQvnb9Z6c
12-18-2010, 05:42 AM
#1088
Tech Adept
iTrader: (28)
Thanks to everyone that replied for the advice!! I also got a pretty detailed PM that should help me out. Thanks!! Does anyone know what would be a good starting point for a pinion to run with the 104t optional gear with a 17.5 motor (no turbo/sboost) on a small carpet track? Just something to get me in the ballpark of where I should be.
My AE droop guage is 12.85mm
It is quite a few years old from a TC4 Team kit. I wonder if they changed them at some point.
My AE droop guage is 12.85mm
It is quite a few years old from a TC4 Team kit. I wonder if they changed them at some point.
12-18-2010, 12:57 PM
#1090
what KO Propo servo do you guess recommend?
12-18-2010, 07:00 PM
#1092
Tech Master
Thanks to everyone that replied for the advice!! I also got a pretty detailed PM that should help me out. Thanks!! Does anyone know what would be a good starting point for a pinion to run with the 104t optional gear with a 17.5 motor (no turbo/sboost) on a small carpet track? Just something to get me in the ballpark of where I should be.
My AE droop guage is 12.85mm It is quite a few years old from a TC4 Team kit. I wonder if they changed them at some point.
My AE droop guage is 12.85mm
It is quite a few years old from a TC4 Team kit. I wonder if they changed them at some point.
12-18-2010, 07:44 PM
#1093
Tech Master
12-19-2010, 06:26 AM
#1094
Had my first run with my new car yesterday, and I really like it. 
Handling was a tick too tail happy on-throttle for my preference [Boosted 17.5], and I corrected that a bit by laying the rear shocks down one hole, and raising the front droop to 3.5mm ORH, everything else is kit setup. Shocks are 700/350cst f/r with 3 hole pistons, with Sorex 24's on low-mid grip carpet.
So by laying the rear shocks down a hole, I was able to help the rear stick a bit better on-power, but the whole car always felt on-top of the track. It'll stick in the corner fine, it just feels... lazy.
I'm experiencing a lazy corner entry with a slight push if I try to arc the corner, but if I "yank" the wheel into a corner, it hooks without pause, but also makes the rear come around pretty quick, which makes chicanes a dicey proposition.
On sweepers, the rear has a lot more rotation than I need, and the chassis gets upset if I make any mid-corner steering correction to keep from steering into the inside barrier.
Now, this is the first car I've had with a spool up front, so it's entirely possible I'm just not driving the car aggressive enough with a front spool. In fact, when I drove mad after a corner marshal stepped on my car [
], the car seemed to handle very well, and several guys commented that it looked the best it had all day. 
So, any input on driving or setup to get the car to turn in a bit more aggressively without giving up any rear grip would be appreciated.
Handling was a tick too tail happy on-throttle for my preference [Boosted 17.5], and I corrected that a bit by laying the rear shocks down one hole, and raising the front droop to 3.5mm ORH, everything else is kit setup. Shocks are 700/350cst f/r with 3 hole pistons, with Sorex 24's on low-mid grip carpet.
So by laying the rear shocks down a hole, I was able to help the rear stick a bit better on-power, but the whole car always felt on-top of the track. It'll stick in the corner fine, it just feels... lazy.
I'm experiencing a lazy corner entry with a slight push if I try to arc the corner, but if I "yank" the wheel into a corner, it hooks without pause, but also makes the rear come around pretty quick, which makes chicanes a dicey proposition.
On sweepers, the rear has a lot more rotation than I need, and the chassis gets upset if I make any mid-corner steering correction to keep from steering into the inside barrier.
Now, this is the first car I've had with a spool up front, so it's entirely possible I'm just not driving the car aggressive enough with a front spool. In fact, when I drove mad after a corner marshal stepped on my car [
], the car seemed to handle very well, and several guys commented that it looked the best it had all day. So, any input on driving or setup to get the car to turn in a bit more aggressively without giving up any rear grip would be appreciated.
12-19-2010, 08:23 AM
#1095
Tech Regular
The difference between the front and shock oils is quite big. Whats your ride heights and droops set to. Ditto camber and toe.
I dont get the aggressive driving, all it does is unsettles the car and the chance of making mistakes increases.
I dont get the aggressive driving, all it does is unsettles the car and the chance of making mistakes increases.