Xray T3 2011
#1111

My setup is really really easy to drive on our lower bite track. For a higher bite track you may want to go up on the front shock oil a little. I also think I am running 2.8 front springs but cant remember if I have those on the sheet or its something Ive changes since then. Everyone at my track that has driven it loves the way it feels. Tons of steering, stable and carries great corner speed. Our track is very bumpy too and it eats the bumps up!!
EA
EA
I'm pretty sure my setup dislikes are going to be in basic geometry.
Thanks for the input, I have a laundry list of things to try when I go practice Wednesday.

EDIT: Looking over EA's setup, the only thing I won't be able to try is the H1/H2 holders unless the LHS has them in stock Wednesday.
#1112
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Anyone having an issue with correct spacing of the Servo Saver/Linkage between the top deck?
I'm using a full size Savox 1257 Servo and am not using the 1mm shim in between the saver (as shown in the manual). The servo saver side has plenty of space while the linkage side is about touching. It seems that the spine insert is pushing the saver to far to the linkage side. Also becasue the servo saver is so far to that side, the linkage is creating an angle where there is a very slight amount of binding. If I was able to move the servo saver back a little then all would be perfect.
Any options here? Perhaps a different servo saver?
I'm using a full size Savox 1257 Servo and am not using the 1mm shim in between the saver (as shown in the manual). The servo saver side has plenty of space while the linkage side is about touching. It seems that the spine insert is pushing the saver to far to the linkage side. Also becasue the servo saver is so far to that side, the linkage is creating an angle where there is a very slight amount of binding. If I was able to move the servo saver back a little then all would be perfect.
Any options here? Perhaps a different servo saver?
#1113

Anyone having an issue with correct spacing of the Servo Saver/Linkage between the top deck?
I'm using a full size Savox 1257 Servo and am not using the 1mm shim in between the saver (as shown in the manual). The servo saver side has plenty of space while the linkage side is about touching. It seems that the spine insert is pushing the saver to far to the linkage side. Also becasue the servo saver is so far to that side, the linkage is creating an angle where there is a very slight amount of binding. If I was able to move the servo saver back a little then all would be perfect.
Any options here? Perhaps a different servo saver?
I'm using a full size Savox 1257 Servo and am not using the 1mm shim in between the saver (as shown in the manual). The servo saver side has plenty of space while the linkage side is about touching. It seems that the spine insert is pushing the saver to far to the linkage side. Also becasue the servo saver is so far to that side, the linkage is creating an angle where there is a very slight amount of binding. If I was able to move the servo saver back a little then all would be perfect.
Any options here? Perhaps a different servo saver?
#1114
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Will there be any problems with this? In-terms of clearance, this allows me to have just enough clearance, I did not put shims on the other side of the servo post (closer to center of the car) because it would then angle the linkage (it is straight already now)
#1115

Anyone having an issue with correct spacing of the Servo Saver/Linkage between the top deck?
I'm using a full size Savox 1257 Servo and am not using the 1mm shim in between the saver (as shown in the manual). The servo saver side has plenty of space while the linkage side is about touching. It seems that the spine insert is pushing the saver to far to the linkage side. Also becasue the servo saver is so far to that side, the linkage is creating an angle where there is a very slight amount of binding. If I was able to move the servo saver back a little then all would be perfect.
Any options here? Perhaps a different servo saver?
I'm using a full size Savox 1257 Servo and am not using the 1mm shim in between the saver (as shown in the manual). The servo saver side has plenty of space while the linkage side is about touching. It seems that the spine insert is pushing the saver to far to the linkage side. Also becasue the servo saver is so far to that side, the linkage is creating an angle where there is a very slight amount of binding. If I was able to move the servo saver back a little then all would be perfect.
Any options here? Perhaps a different servo saver?
#1116
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I posted this on the team xray forum.
If anyone is facing the same problem he can try this.
"I use a normal sized ERG-VZ on my electric cars. When I installed the new servo saver on, I found out that when i was tightening the servo screw the whole steering system was binding and when I undid it half a turn the steering linkage would free up. It wasn't long before I noticed that the plastic adapter's hole (K in my case) is too deep and it touches the servo body. So when you tighten the screw, it rubs against the servo body and binds the steering linkage. I got hold of a few 3x5 shims (unfortunately the common 3x6 don't fit) and placed them between the servo shaft and the plastic servo adapter.
So if you are facing problems with your sanwa servo (or any other servo), don't install the plastic shim that is shown on top of page 14 of the manual, (you don't need it) but instead use a few of these shims (I used 0.3mm in total) to set the proper top deck clearance and have a free moving steering linkage.
Probably this has something to do with some drivers experiencing inconsistent steering, or the car not tracking straight, with the new servo saver."
Hope this helps.
If anyone is facing the same problem he can try this.
"I use a normal sized ERG-VZ on my electric cars. When I installed the new servo saver on, I found out that when i was tightening the servo screw the whole steering system was binding and when I undid it half a turn the steering linkage would free up. It wasn't long before I noticed that the plastic adapter's hole (K in my case) is too deep and it touches the servo body. So when you tighten the screw, it rubs against the servo body and binds the steering linkage. I got hold of a few 3x5 shims (unfortunately the common 3x6 don't fit) and placed them between the servo shaft and the plastic servo adapter.
So if you are facing problems with your sanwa servo (or any other servo), don't install the plastic shim that is shown on top of page 14 of the manual, (you don't need it) but instead use a few of these shims (I used 0.3mm in total) to set the proper top deck clearance and have a free moving steering linkage.
Probably this has something to do with some drivers experiencing inconsistent steering, or the car not tracking straight, with the new servo saver."
Hope this helps.
#1117
Tech Regular
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I have a T-3 with a 48p, 84t spur.I have a 10.5 anda 13.5.What pinion can run on these without oveheating them.Don't worry about the track we run on,It is small and goofy.I just want to be on the safe side.I want the motors to last..
I don't want to
them up.
regards
I don't want to

regards
Last edited by tc3jp; 12-21-2010 at 03:51 PM.
#1118
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Anyone having an issue with correct spacing of the Servo Saver/Linkage between the top deck?
I'm using a full size Savox 1257 Servo and am not using the 1mm shim in between the saver (as shown in the manual). The servo saver side has plenty of space while the linkage side is about touching. It seems that the spine insert is pushing the saver to far to the linkage side. Also becasue the servo saver is so far to that side, the linkage is creating an angle where there is a very slight amount of binding. If I was able to move the servo saver back a little then all would be perfect.
Any options here? Perhaps a different servo saver?
I'm using a full size Savox 1257 Servo and am not using the 1mm shim in between the saver (as shown in the manual). The servo saver side has plenty of space while the linkage side is about touching. It seems that the spine insert is pushing the saver to far to the linkage side. Also becasue the servo saver is so far to that side, the linkage is creating an angle where there is a very slight amount of binding. If I was able to move the servo saver back a little then all would be perfect.
Any options here? Perhaps a different servo saver?
To clarify a bit ...
I am not using any shims on the servo posts, the ears are mounted in front of the servo posts and adding any would make the issue worse.
The steering is not binding becasue of the saver being to close to the servo i.e. rubbing on the servo iteself. There is enought space there to prevent this.
Basically, it seems that the distance from the ears to the beginning of the spline on the 1257 is a bit long, meaning that without any shims anywhere, it is about touching the top deck on the linkage side.
If the lip of the servo adapters (K,H,F) was a little thinner, then things would work out.
I saw that the XII has a similar servo saver, but it appears from pics that the adapter it uses has a slightly thinner lip, not sure though as the pics from xray's site are not that clear.
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#1123

What weight diff oil are you guys running in the rear for Spec-R diff? Is 3000 or 5000 to much?
#1124

To clarify a bit ...
I am not using any shims on the servo posts, the ears are mounted in front of the servo posts and adding any would make the issue worse.
The steering is not binding becasue of the saver being to close to the servo i.e. rubbing on the servo iteself. There is enought space there to prevent this.
Basically, it seems that the distance from the ears to the beginning of the spline on the 1257 is a bit long, meaning that without any shims anywhere, it is about touching the top deck on the linkage side.
If the lip of the servo adapters (K,H,F) was a little thinner, then things would work out.
I saw that the XII has a similar servo saver, but it appears from pics that the adapter it uses has a slightly thinner lip, not sure though as the pics from xray's site are not that clear.
I am not using any shims on the servo posts, the ears are mounted in front of the servo posts and adding any would make the issue worse.
The steering is not binding becasue of the saver being to close to the servo i.e. rubbing on the servo iteself. There is enought space there to prevent this.
Basically, it seems that the distance from the ears to the beginning of the spline on the 1257 is a bit long, meaning that without any shims anywhere, it is about touching the top deck on the linkage side.
If the lip of the servo adapters (K,H,F) was a little thinner, then things would work out.
I saw that the XII has a similar servo saver, but it appears from pics that the adapter it uses has a slightly thinner lip, not sure though as the pics from xray's site are not that clear.
