Iv owned and raced the following within the last two years. (in this order)

B4
xxx-cr
cougar
rb5 sp2
22
b4.1

Nice, I wanted to check out the Kyoshos, but I see no reason to switch if there's no significant improvement.

wow you made a new account just for that? use your real acount

I just made the switch...Long time AE fanboy. There was very little difference in driving. (IMO) I look at it as just a higher quality B4.1. I am a 10th or 2 quicker with the K car but that just may have to do with the big bores/setup/track ect...ect.

Yeah, from what people have told me, the B4.1 and the RB5 are very similar. I've driven a 22 and it was definitely a lot different (or may not have been set up correctly, lots of steering and loose rear end).

I also found the RB5 and the B4 to drive very similarly... i think its because they share a lot of the same fundamental geometry. The B4 is cheaper and easier to work on, the Kyosho uses better materials but is more expensive.

who is it, who is it

And by higher quality I meant the fit and finish of the arms/shocks/steering...There are some parts of the B4 that are higher quality then the K car...Most notably the outdrives and cvd's.

i will keep that to my self for now unless he does it again then I will call him out

So you're sticking with the B4.1? I'm debating on picking up a Kyosho and 22 to test...I'll sell the stuff I don't opt for.

iv only been running the B4.1 for a couple weeks... i will run it solid for the next month or two... maybe go back to the 22 again for a bit... which ever suites my driving style the best, I will keep. So far... its kind of a tossup. I think the B4 drive style might fit me better. I like a more agressive feeling car, and the 22 feels a little more lazy.

Yeah, I like the turn-in and "crisp" feel of the B4 (I haven't run my B4.1 yet). The tracks I've run on have fairly technical layouts.

I've only been racing for 2-3 months, and the only two I've driven are the b4.1, obviously and a couple 22s. Both 22s I drove felt like they could turn really tight, but the rear didnt feel as planted as the b4. When I can keep the car consistent I like to drive pretty aggressively, taking any inside line I possibly can and I think the b4.1 helps with this type of driving style. The big bores do feel nice over the rough stuff though. What I ve seen with the kyosho stuff is that if you take a decent bobble the thing break, but they can be fast. I think I'm going to stick with my ae stuff for now. Looking forward to the next buggy from area 51. If I had tons of extra cash there would definitely be a few different buggies in my pit to tinker with.


Teufel:
I played with 0 degree hubs from the b44 the other day on my 2wd at the track and to me made it feel like the rear end was too loose. I like a fairly locked in rear, and the cav setup with k springs and some added weight on the bulkhead and servo corners works pretty good for me. 2wd is a whole different driving game though compared to the wheeler.

Thanks for the tip on the RPM ball cups,

Had thought of running those, as past practice has showed me they are better. Yeah I only broke the rear camber link ones. Not sure why those only break.

Trevor,

Thanks for the help. I'll look into the B44 ones. I think I'm trying to get the right balance on the front and rear for what I want it to do. I know too much rear toe will cause the front end to push and too little rear toe will let it steer, but the rear end is too loose. Maybe it's still part of the way it used to be. Associated always had good rear traction, but tended to have a push and the Losi seemed to have good steering, but the rear felt loose. At least that the way they always felt to me.

Different than the wheeler? Man and then some. Coming back to 2wd after running 1/8th nitro for most of the past 10 years is a huge difference. The wheeler just made the transition a little easier. I'll get it figured out. Have a few things to try and see if they still work. Just remember, no more boost. Hard to keep pace when you are one of the only people running without boost. LOL. Just need to get the 2wd to drag race you down the straight like my wheeler did. Fun times.

what is a good short list of spare parts I should have on hand for my b4.1 FT? The local track does not really have any spares for sale, and my LHS is spotty at best for anything related to offroad buggy, so I need to order what I need beforehand in case I break at the track. I have front arms on order, I'm going to pick up rear arms from my LHS on Saturday, I have front and rear shock towers, I have spare CVD assemblies, what else should I keep on hand?

Thanks!