Basic Car Tuning
#106
Originally posted by soc123_au
A flat setting is softer, as you get more vertical it becomes stiffer.
Horizontal for low traction & adjust to more vertical as traction allows.
A flat setting is softer, as you get more vertical it becomes stiffer.
Horizontal for low traction & adjust to more vertical as traction allows.
#107
Originally posted by esham
Another guy is that Manticore HK guy.
Another guy is that Manticore HK guy.
Manticore is the man, all be it a bit invisible.

Don't be jealous Data !
#108
Originally posted by EVOLUTION
There's a difference between being very responsive with information that has come from others and simply been copied and information that comes with real experience, if I may say so?
There's a difference between being very responsive with information that has come from others and simply been copied and information that comes with real experience, if I may say so?
i see you have mostly 5 ports (mod) engines on your cars, ever consider trying out some simple, stock 3 port engines ?
Manticore is the man, all be it a bit invisible.

Don't be jealous Data !
#109
Originally posted by EVOLUTION
[B]There's a difference between being very responsive with information that has come from others and simply been copied and information that comes with real experience, if I may say so?
[B]
[B]There's a difference between being very responsive with information that has come from others and simply been copied and information that comes with real experience, if I may say so?
[B]
But still as beginner, I need help with other's experiences.. Anyone that willing..I appreciated. So pls do so. (Giving comments.)
Originally posted by Data
[B] text book solutions sometimes help. but esham, without knowing anything much about your car, the track and the way you drive, it is kind of hard to help you. some people can offer solutions just by the description "lazy going into corners", but most of us can't. i guess this the different between real pros and beginners like me.
i see you have mostly 5 ports (mod) engines on your cars, ever consider trying out some simple, stock 3 port engines ?[B]
[B] text book solutions sometimes help. but esham, without knowing anything much about your car, the track and the way you drive, it is kind of hard to help you. some people can offer solutions just by the description "lazy going into corners", but most of us can't. i guess this the different between real pros and beginners like me.
i see you have mostly 5 ports (mod) engines on your cars, ever consider trying out some simple, stock 3 port engines ?[B]
and sometime i wonder what are the strategies and Objectives priority when a good and experience rc racers at a track for practice, tuneup their kits or on racing days. For example.. when you are at a track, what are your objectives setupup in your mind?
Is it ..maybe...1. To Enjoy yourself..
2. Run fastest lap (TQ) 3. Run stable, consistent and fast..
And What is your approch to accomplish that ? My scenario..please correct me.
.i'm learning. Went to a track with objective to enjoy and do consistent and fastest lap. Ok, i start run with my standard setup afew laps. Then just example i found my car is slow into corner. The car not go into corner immediately, it slide and understeer. Ok, then i change front tires by attention to have more grip in front ( let say from 40 to 37) if it still slide.. now i can't change it to lower than 37.? Because if i do that i afraid the tires will not last long. Or..should i?OK now emm... i soften the front spring tension ( without moving the shock position) maximun soften the tension. But sometime it doesn't help it still understeer. So should i change the spring to much more softer spring or I stiffen the rear suspention or put add more rear droop. Should i?
Should i go for maximum extreme change and see the effect and adjust/reduce it later to preferable action or change in the small amount till reach the desired action..
There are alot more question..hope i didn't confuse anybody..
#110
Originally posted by Data
text book solutions sometimes help. but esham, without knowing anything much about your car, the track and the way you drive, it is kind of hard to help you. some people can offer solutions just by the description "lazy going into corners", but most of us can't. i guess this the different between real pros and beginners like me.
text book solutions sometimes help. but esham, without knowing anything much about your car, the track and the way you drive, it is kind of hard to help you. some people can offer solutions just by the description "lazy going into corners", but most of us can't. i guess this the different between real pros and beginners like me.
#111
Originally posted by esham
Yup.. I agree it such alot factors (track, driving..etc) and combination/balance that I need to describe first
and sometime i wonder what are the strategies and Objectives priority when a good and experience rc racers at a track for practice, tuneup their kits or on racing days.
For example.. when you are at a track, what are your objectives setupup in your mind?
Is it ..maybe...1. To Enjoy yourself..
2. Run fastest lap (TQ) 3. Run stable, consistent and fast..
And What is your approch to accomplish that ?
My scenario..please correct me.
.i'm learning. Went to a track with objective to enjoy and do consistent and fastest lap. Ok, i start run with my standard setup afew laps. Then just example i found my car is slow into corner. The car not go into corner immediately, it slide and understeer. Ok, then i change front tires by attention to have more grip in front ( let say from 40 to 37) if it still slide.. now i can't change it to lower than 37.? Because if i do that i afraid the tires will not last long. Or..should i?
OK now emm... i soften the front spring tension ( without moving the shock position) maximun soften the tension. But sometime it doesn't help it still understeer. So should i change the spring to much more softer spring or I stiffen the rear suspention or put add more rear droop. Should i?
Should i go for maximum extreme change and see the effect and adjust/reduce it later to preferable action or change in the small amount till reach the desired action..
There are alot more question..hope i didn't confuse anybody..
Yup.. I agree it such alot factors (track, driving..etc) and combination/balance that I need to describe first
and sometime i wonder what are the strategies and Objectives priority when a good and experience rc racers at a track for practice, tuneup their kits or on racing days. For example.. when you are at a track, what are your objectives setupup in your mind?
Is it ..maybe...1. To Enjoy yourself..
2. Run fastest lap (TQ) 3. Run stable, consistent and fast..
And What is your approch to accomplish that ? My scenario..please correct me.
.i'm learning. Went to a track with objective to enjoy and do consistent and fastest lap. Ok, i start run with my standard setup afew laps. Then just example i found my car is slow into corner. The car not go into corner immediately, it slide and understeer. Ok, then i change front tires by attention to have more grip in front ( let say from 40 to 37) if it still slide.. now i can't change it to lower than 37.? Because if i do that i afraid the tires will not last long. Or..should i?OK now emm... i soften the front spring tension ( without moving the shock position) maximun soften the tension. But sometime it doesn't help it still understeer. So should i change the spring to much more softer spring or I stiffen the rear suspention or put add more rear droop. Should i?
Should i go for maximum extreme change and see the effect and adjust/reduce it later to preferable action or change in the small amount till reach the desired action..
There are alot more question..hope i didn't confuse anybody..
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Experiment a bit more while you are at the track and you will answer many of you questions regarding actions/desired effect. This is the only way you will answer some of the questions you posed above due to many of the reasons Data listed among others.
Maybe it would be more beneficial if you post in the thread applicable to your car so that you will get help from people who actually run the same car as you do and therefore have real experience rather then the theoretical type. (you have so many in your sig)
Have fun !
#112
Originally posted by EVOLUTION
Damn, and I thought you were also going to give some generic piece of info like someone else always does without asking the tough questions.
Damn, and I thought you were also going to give some generic piece of info like someone else always does without asking the tough questions.
I'm dissapointed in you Data !
#114
Originally posted by Data
opps, i meant over-grown kids......
opps, i meant over-grown kids......
5 minutes in the corner for you son.
#115
Seen experience racer true/trim their tires. And i'm wonder why I should that? Can anybody tell me what is the secret of true/triming the tires? Should I do that but in what ground?
#116
Originally posted by esham
Seen experience racer true/trim their tires. And i'm wonder why I should that? Can anybody tell me what is the secret of true/triming the tires? Should I do that but in what ground?
Seen experience racer true/trim their tires. And i'm wonder why I should that? Can anybody tell me what is the secret of true/triming the tires? Should I do that but in what ground?

Just kidding ...
#118
This is a old thread but may good for beginners now..
I believe i'm not beginner anymore.
I bought tire truer because i set/tune my tires diameter to get the good roll out and cornering speed. More often i trued my front tires to get smaller diameter than behind tires just to 1 of combination to get smaller cornering
I believe i'm not beginner anymore.I bought tire truer because i set/tune my tires diameter to get the good roll out and cornering speed. More often i trued my front tires to get smaller diameter than behind tires just to 1 of combination to get smaller cornering




