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Old 05-26-2004, 09:10 PM   #91
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I disagree on this one. In my opinion you should never "reduce" performance at one end of the car first to balance it; ALWAYS "increase" performance at the other end to balance it and only "reduce" if you can't get the balance. In this case if your car is oversteering I would work to get more grip at the rear first then reduce front grip if all else fails. You will end up with a faster car this way.
aaah - ha this is something.. Thank you KMac., What I mean i got your point there. By the example there having improvement in front grip what we should reduce it! Ya.. work on the weak area first.
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Old 05-27-2004, 02:29 AM   #92
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If it still tend to oversteer i will be thinking to harden the front tension as to reduce the front grip. So I tighten both of the shock collar. This will increase the hardness or front spring tension which i tought will prevent the front suspension too "dip" and reduce the weight transfer to the front. Or very seldom I change the spring hardness. And by tighten the spring in front this will make my front ride height increase. So to keep my front height to the 5mm I force it by using the front anti roll bar screw ( front droop screw)I'm not sure if this is correct to do Pls. correct me if this wrong..[/B]
what is your front sway bar's setting? flat ?
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what is your front sway bar's setting? flat ?
Yes it's flat..why?
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A flat setting is softer, as you get more vertical it becomes stiffer.
Horizontal for low traction & adjust to more vertical as traction allows.
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A flat setting is softer, as you get more vertical it becomes stiffer.
Horizontal for low traction & adjust to more vertical as traction allows.
What is the advantage to have more stiffer? Is it will make the car push into corner ..
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Old 05-27-2004, 10:00 AM   #96
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I disagree on this one. In my opinion you should never "reduce" performance at one end of the car first to balance it; ALWAYS "increase" performance at the other end to balance it and only "reduce" if you can't get the balance. In this case if your car is oversteering I would work to get more grip at the rear first then reduce front grip if all else fails. You will end up with a faster car this way.
I'm not so sure I agree with this. To me it depends on when the car is oversteering (on power or off power,etc.) If it is oversteering on power than by all means add grip to the rear first BUT if it is oversteering off power then I would take away grip from the front first. Just my 2 cents
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In my experience an oversteer off power can be fixed by reducing rear droop and keeping more weight over the rear wheels.
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Thanks for the tip I will keep that in mind, whatever works for you stick with it. It is just that when car is off power weight is being transfered to the front therefore the front is where I make adjustments when dealing with off power tuning issues.
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What is the advantage to have more stiffer? Is it will make the car push into corner ..
The stiffer the car is the less likely you will traction roll, the softer the car is the more traction you will get. This is a very basic view but a good starting point. Soft Vs Stiff is all relevant to the track surface. By soft/stiff I am refering to tyres as well as suspension.
There are so many combinations so you need to have a play to see what works. Record your changes & only make one change at a time so you know what helps & what doesnt.
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Hi guys, my car kind of "lazy" kit in going into corners. How i should set my car to be more responsive, faster going into corner?

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Hi guys, my car kind of "lazy" kit in going into corners. How i should set my car to be more responsive, faster going into corner?
Esham, you could try using a stiffer spring in the rear or stand up the rear shocks more vertical.
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Esham, you could try using a stiffer spring in the rear or stand up the rear shocks more vertical.
I'm really admit that you are one of the most responsive in this forum. Thank you. Another guy is that Manticore HK guy. Where is he now do you know anything about it?
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Manticore stopped posting at 10001 posts for some reason

I think he might have changed his name.

If your out there Manti we need your expertise
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The stiffer the car is the less likely you will traction roll, the softer the car is the more traction you will get. This is a very basic view but a good starting point. Soft Vs Stiff is all relevant to the track surface. By soft/stiff I am refering to tyres as well as suspension.
There are so many combinations so you need to have a play to see what works. Record your changes & only make one change at a time so you know what helps & what doesnt.
I have fond the opposite. Siffer spings means the force applied to the outer wheels is done so quicker than soft springs. This results in a quick loading of the outside wheel and results in the car flipping.

Softer springs allow this to happen more slowly and the load is spread over a longer time. Therfore the load required to flip the car is never reached!

Use softer springs to avoid traction roll

Hope thi makes sense
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