...you could get an M07, problem solved!

Okay, that was a joke, not meant to stir the pot (I love the mini class and all its iterations).

Not sure if it is that as much as them just trying to control costs.

On page 26 of the manual there is a blank setup sheet. In the section for "Front" under "Caster angle" it says "2 degrees" next to "C5". C5 is the upright with the insert we have been talking about. Knowing that bottom plate that holds the inboard pins is 0 degrees they seem to have been going for a total of 2 degrees of total caster. This was not possible with any of the existing parts for the 07 so they had to make new ones. A new 0 degree bottom plate and reusing the mold for the upright was probably the easiest/most cost-effective way to get accomplish the design goal.

I'm actually interested in trying the 0 degree blocks for the 07 in combination with the 0 degree 08 bottom plate. It will add a bunch of steering that could be tamed with other suspension changes like the harder sway bar or harder springs. I'm currently using the soft red springs and the soft red sway bar in my carpet setup. From a tuning perspective I like a car where I am trying to take steering out rather than fighting to add it. Just a personal preference.

Hi M-08 fans,

I am from Germany and just registered to this forum, because I read you are discussing about the front c-hubs.

A few weeks ago I purchased a M-08 to build me a nice NSU TT, just for parking lots. I read this whole thread before and got some tips and tricks.
But what was still bothering me was the play of the king pin bushings. So I designed and printed a new c-hub which fits some ball bearings instead of the original bushings. It worked perfectly, no more play at this joint!

Now I read you broke some c-hubs at the bottom section, where the shells for the caster adjustment are inserted? Did I understood this correctly? So I thought, if you are interested I could upload my c-hubs to i.e. shapeways so you could order them from there.
I can also modify this bottom section to make it stronger. I can make a version to fit the hinge pin directly instead of these shells. Of course I would have to know a desired caster angle.

I think I can't upload pics with my first post? So I will post them later.

Best regards!
Mike

Guten Tag Mike,

Yes you are correct. The C Hub is splitting on the bottom. The breakage goes through the grub screw, because that area is very thin. When you are able to load pictures, you design would be interesting for us to see. I also think it does not hurt to have it available on shape ways.

Mike,

Thanks for taking the time to share this with us here. I've been wanting to address that bit of play too but it sounds like you were a bit more motivated.

If you send me a private message with the link and pictures I can post it for you.

Mike, here are the pictures of your printed c-hubs. Sorry it took so long. They look nice. Where do we get them?

Hey no problem, thanks for uploading them.
the black one is the original, the grey one was printed from sculpteo.com.

I tried to open a shop at sculpteo and at shapeways but did have some issues with both. I mailed them but didn't get any answers yet. I will let you know when it works.