Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road > Onroad Nitro Engine Zone
Rody VS Racing Engines - Onroad Motors >

Rody VS Racing Engines - Onroad Motors

Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Like Tree151Likes

Rody VS Racing Engines - Onroad Motors

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-29-2017 | 12:25 AM
  #76  
VS_Rody's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 265
From: Carces FRANCE
Default

Originally Posted by BigC2007
Hey Rody,

I was looking at your VS Racing 2102R Competition On-Road Engine on Amain hobbies and it states *1/8 scale on-road racing and is recommended for "EXPERIENCED" users*

Is your motors hard to break in or tune ? Again am asking this because I am seeking a new motor but limited on my experience with them.
Hi BigC2007,

Always hard to explain..., Because these engines are made for maximum performance you need to take attention because of the tight fit of the piston/liner the engines are not easy to start at the very beginning and you need to be carefull with the rpm when the engine is new. Once the engine is run-in they are quite easy to tune. But this is my experience.
How many engines have you had experience with? brands and the problems you have encountered(or maybe not). If you tell me some more maybe I can guide you to a good solution.
VS_Rody is offline  
Old 08-29-2017 | 06:31 AM
  #77  
BigC2007's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,881
Default

Originally Posted by VS_Rody
Hi BigC2007,

Always hard to explain..., Because these engines are made for maximum performance you need to take attention because of the tight fit of the piston/liner the engines are not easy to start at the very beginning and you need to be carefull with the rpm when the engine is new. Once the engine is run-in they are quite easy to tune. But this is my experience.
How many engines have you had experience with? brands and the problems you have encountered(or maybe not). If you tell me some more maybe I can guide you to a good solution.
Thanks Rody for the reply and I have ran 2 picco's 2 Novarossi's. And both picco's and novarossi's one was new and one was pre owned. Breaking in the new motors I have had the Novrossi's were the hardest to break in but I took my time and they seem to come out great.

Any issues came of both picco's that seem not to last long and both threw rod's.
dan_vector likes this.
BigC2007 is offline  
Old 08-29-2017 | 06:41 AM
  #78  
dan_vector's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 4,333
Default

Originally Posted by BigC2007
Thanks Rody for the reply and I have ran 2 picco's 2 Novarossi's. And both picco's and novarossi's one was new and one was pre owned. Breaking in the new motors I have had the Novrossi's were the hardest to break in but I took my time and they seem to come out great.

Any issues came of both picco's that seem not to last long and both threw rod's.
That's my experience with Picco's too. They break in quickly and are very fast when new but by 2-3 gallons in they drop off and become very unstable.

I believe Novarossi's are manufactured to higher quality standards, better materials and tighter tolerances (OS is probably of similar ilk as it's Japanese and the Japanese are renowned for exacting standards). Thats why a Novarossi takes a lot longer to fully break in than something like a Picco.

However the end result of the longer break in is great performance for many many gallons. So whilst a bit more expensive than a Picco I think you get more value for money. Admittedly I haven't tried Picco's latest S1 engines and those may be better, I don't know.

Novarossi went through a bit of a black period when they were messing around with the XL stroke engines but the new Mitos are gold. Certainly my experience in 20+ years of playing with these things!
mustangkillaz likes this.
dan_vector is offline  
Old 08-29-2017 | 06:50 AM
  #79  
BigC2007's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,881
Default

Originally Posted by dan_vector
That's my experience with Picco's too. They break in quickly and are very fast when new but by 2-3 gallons in they drop off and become very unstable.

I believe Novarossi's are manufactured to higher quality standards, better materials and tighter tolerances (OS is probably of similar ilk as it's Japanese and the Japanese are renowned for exacting standards). Thats why a Novarossi takes a lot longer to fully break in than something like a Picco.

However the end result of the longer break in is great performance for many many gallons. So whilst a bit more expensive than a Picco I think you get more value for money. Admittedly I haven't tried Picco's latest S1 engines and those may be better, I don't know.

Novarossi went through a bit of a black period when they were messing around with the XL stroke engines but the new Mitos are gold. Certainly my experience in 20+ years of playing with these things!
And your 20 years + are a blessing to guys like myself.
BigC2007 is offline  
Old 08-29-2017 | 07:04 AM
  #80  
dan_vector's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 4,333
Default

Originally Posted by BigC2007
And your 20 years + are a blessing to guys like myself.
Not just me there are loads of guys here. Rody is one of the old guard! There isn't much about a nitro engine that gentleman doesn't know!! He's probably forgotten more than I'll ever know
ralphierace13 and VS_Rody like this.
dan_vector is offline  
Old 08-29-2017 | 07:09 AM
  #81  
VS_Rody's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 265
From: Carces FRANCE
Default

Originally Posted by BigC2007
Thanks Rody for the reply and I have ran 2 picco's 2 Novarossi's. And both picco's and novarossi's one was new and one was pre owned. Breaking in the new motors I have had the Novrossi's were the hardest to break in but I took my time and they seem to come out great.

Any issues came of both picco's that seem not to last long and both threw rod's.
If you have managed to pass the hard breakin process of the Novarossi then the VSR02 should not be a bigger problem. Just pre-heat well the engine for the first start and the first gallon and you should be OK.
If this would have been your first engine I would suggest a Picco, easier to run-in.
Carburetor setting should not be a problem, in general after the running-in I just needed to close more the idle needle and lower the idle and then just set the main-needle.
VS_Rody is offline  
Old 08-29-2017 | 08:36 AM
  #82  
BigC2007's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,881
Default

Originally Posted by VS_Rody
If you have managed to pass the hard breakin process of the Novarossi then the VSR02 should not be a bigger problem. Just pre-heat well the engine for the first start and the first gallon and you should be OK.
If this would have been your first engine I would suggest a Picco, easier to run-in.
Carburetor setting should not be a problem, in general after the running-in I just needed to close more the idle needle and lower the idle and then just set the main-needle.
Rody,

Thanks for your time and advice.
VS_Rody likes this.
BigC2007 is offline  
Old 08-30-2017 | 03:35 PM
  #83  
ralphierace13's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,565
Default

Originally Posted by dan_vector
That's my experience with Picco's too. They break in quickly and are very fast when new but by 2-3 gallons in they drop off and become very unstable.

I believe Novarossi's are manufactured to higher quality standards, better materials and tighter tolerances (OS is probably of similar ilk as it's Japanese and the Japanese are renowned for exacting standards). Thats why a Novarossi takes a lot longer to fully break in than something like a Picco.

However the end result of the longer break in is great performance for many many gallons. So whilst a bit more expensive than a Picco I think you get more value for money. Admittedly I haven't tried Picco's latest S1 engines and those may be better, I don't know.

Novarossi went through a bit of a black period when they were messing around with the XL stroke engines but the new Mitos are gold. Certainly my experience in 20+ years of playing with these things!
wow dan u said that perfectly sir!!! one ? and problem with nova what is up with there glow plugs if u fart next to them they blow!!!????
ralphierace13 is offline  
Old 08-30-2017 | 06:00 PM
  #84  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,296
From: Oxnard, CA
Default

I've been following this thread with interest, its not often that we get a legend to answer our questions. A bit off topic, what do you think about the EBIS break in method Mr. Roem?

Last edited by nitrodude; 08-30-2017 at 08:31 PM.
nitrodude is offline  
Old 08-30-2017 | 07:13 PM
  #85  
dan_vector's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 4,333
Default

Originally Posted by ralphierace13
wow dan u said that perfectly sir!!! one ? and problem with nova what is up with there glow plugs if u fart next to them they blow!!!????
Not my experience with the newer 'B' line plugs. Some of the older plugs were very fragile which is why many of us started to run OS plugs at that time.
dan_vector is offline  
Old 08-31-2017 | 06:40 AM
  #86  
BigC2007's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,881
Default

Originally Posted by dan_vector
Not my experience with the newer 'B' line plugs. Some of the older plugs were very fragile which is why many of us started to run OS plugs at that time.
Dan what are "B" line plugs ? And I myself never really had issues with Novarossi plugs, I just think Ralph is just too damm fast any plug cant keep up with him.
BigC2007 is offline  
Old 08-31-2017 | 07:48 AM
  #87  
dan_vector's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 4,333
Default

Originally Posted by BigC2007
Dan what are "B" line plugs ? And I myself never really had issues with Novarossi plugs, I just think Ralph is just too damm fast any plug cant keep up with him.
These are the new plugs from Novarossi. Well I say new they've been around about a year. Identified by a 'B' at the end of the part number such as C8TGFB for a.12 engine and either C7TGFB or C8TGFB for a.21 depending on 16 or 25% nitro. The plugs have a wire that's been burnished which is basically a process that highly polishes the wire to remove surface imperfections which can be cause for wire failure during use.
dan_vector is offline  
Old 08-31-2017 | 08:16 AM
  #88  
BigC2007's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,881
Default

Originally Posted by dan_vector
These are the new plugs from Novarossi. Well I say new they've been around about a year. Identified by a 'B' at the end of the part number such as C8TGFB for a.12 engine and either C7TGFB or C8TGFB for a.21 depending on 16 or 25% nitro. The plugs have a wire that's been burnished which is basically a process that highly polishes the wire to remove surface imperfections which can be cause for wire failure during use.
Oh ok thanks Dan for the info, I think I may have one those new in package ready for my next run.
BigC2007 is offline  
Old 08-31-2017 | 10:00 AM
  #89  
ralphierace13's Avatar
Tech Elite
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,565
Default

Originally Posted by BigC2007
Dan what are "B" line plugs ? And I myself never really had issues with Novarossi plugs, I just think Ralph is just too damm fast any plug cant keep up with him.

u do have a point there !! but even when I go easy they blow.. and I been blowing the b line also.. but I will not use os in my nova..
ralphierace13 is offline  
Old 08-31-2017 | 10:28 AM
  #90  
mustangkillaz's Avatar
Tech Master
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,155
Default

Originally Posted by dan_vector
That's my experience with Picco's too. They break in quickly and are very fast when new but by 2-3 gallons in they drop off and become very unstable.

I believe Novarossi's are manufactured to higher quality standards, better materials and tighter tolerances (OS is probably of similar ilk as it's Japanese and the Japanese are renowned for exacting standards). Thats why a Novarossi takes a lot longer to fully break in than something like a Picco.

However the end result of the longer break in is great performance for many many gallons. So whilst a bit more expensive than a Picco I think you get more value for money. Admittedly I haven't tried Picco's latest S1 engines and those may be better, I don't know.

Novarossi went through a bit of a black period when they were messing around with the XL stroke engines but the new Mitos are gold. Certainly my experience in 20+ years of playing with these things!
This.

Also, Picco had a reputation for tunning and carb issues in my racer circle several years back. I didin't care to find out if that has been eliminated and have just bough Nova stuff for many years. The only bad part is that their support is weak. I emailed them 5 times with no response and finally called Italy last night and spoke to a cute sounding gal. She quickly helped me with replacement parts I needed on some older engines I have. My Italian and hers were different.. even though our dialects were different, we were able to understand each other very well and I was able to get what I needed.
Pedro Jesus likes this.
mustangkillaz is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.