Futaba 4PX
#1621
Tech Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2015
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#1623
#1625
#1626
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,595
From: Covington, La.
#1627
I had a problem with my hobbywing SCT XERUN speed control running my 9352-HV servo. Once the battery was half gone, I would loose a lot of my steering and it would feel very mushy until I let off the throttle in the slow sections. But adding a caps seemed to eliminate the problem for me since there is a reserve of juice for burst loads to be drawn from on hard acceleration.
Honestly it's BS in my opinion that these ESC companies can't get it through their heads in this day and time we need stronger BEC output currents for HV servos, or at least an adjustable version.
Here are links to those>
Glitch Buster Rx Cap
Reedy Black Box Motor-Output Cap Pack
As another good option, a lot of people are bypassing the ESC's BEC all together and either running direct from the battery or from the battery output through an external BEC like this one> 10 amp adjustable BEC
All you have to do to run an external BEC is to remove the red wire from the ESC output plug to the Rx. Then plug the new external BEC into a spare channel and your good to go. If you go with the adjustable version I linked, you can run a much higher output and the difference in servo power will be improved greatly.
Last edited by Josh L; 07-20-2015 at 01:41 PM.
#1628
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,595
From: Covington, La.
Just add a glitch buster capacitor to the Rx and a cap pack to the ESC for the motor to pull easier off the ESC. This also helps things run cooler with less resistance.
I had a problem with my hobbywing SCT XERUN speed control running my 9352-HV servo. Once the battery was half gone, I would loose a lot of my steering and it would feel very mushy until I let off the throttle in the slow sections. But adding a caps seemed to eliminate the problem for me since there is a reserve of juice for burst loads to be drawn from on hard acceleration.
Honestly it's BS in my opinion that these ESC companies can't get it through their heads in this day and time we need stronger BEC output currents for HV servos, or at least an adjustable version.
Here are links to those>
Glitch Buster Rx Cap
Reedy Black Box Motor-Output Cap Pack
I had a problem with my hobbywing SCT XERUN speed control running my 9352-HV servo. Once the battery was half gone, I would loose a lot of my steering and it would feel very mushy until I let off the throttle in the slow sections. But adding a caps seemed to eliminate the problem for me since there is a reserve of juice for burst loads to be drawn from on hard acceleration.
Honestly it's BS in my opinion that these ESC companies can't get it through their heads in this day and time we need stronger BEC output currents for HV servos, or at least an adjustable version.
Here are links to those>
Glitch Buster Rx Cap
Reedy Black Box Motor-Output Cap Pack
I am running 6700mah batteries now compared to the 4600's I really doubt I am even using half of the battery after 3-4 mins of running. I am just not buying the issue they are telling me.
#1629
I know your ESC has a bank on it, most of them do, but adding some more never hurts anything and your on-boards could be fried. This would help you know if that is the case. But I agree with you, that should not be happening regardless of what servo your using. Could you explain in more detail whats going on and what they are saying?
It sounds more like your overheating from some sort of heavy resistance, or your hitting the BEC limiter for some off reason.
I had to adjust my HW XERUN to a 3v cutoff to keep it from cutting out way to early. I seen it cut me off with almost 28% still left on the pack.
You might have a lemon.
It sounds more like your overheating from some sort of heavy resistance, or your hitting the BEC limiter for some off reason.
I had to adjust my HW XERUN to a 3v cutoff to keep it from cutting out way to early. I seen it cut me off with almost 28% still left on the pack.
You might have a lemon.
#1630
Just add a glitch buster capacitor to the Rx and a cap pack to the ESC for the motor to pull easier off the ESC. This also helps things run cooler with less resistance.
I had a problem with my hobbywing SCT XERUN speed control running my 9352-HV servo. Once the battery was half gone, I would loose a lot of my steering and it would feel very mushy until I let off the throttle in the slow sections. But adding a caps seemed to eliminate the problem for me since there is a reserve of juice for burst loads to be drawn from on hard acceleration.
Honestly it's BS in my opinion that these ESC companies can't get it through their heads in this day and time we need stronger BEC output currents for HV servos, or at least an adjustable version.
Here are links to those>
Glitch Buster Rx Cap
Reedy Black Box Motor-Output Cap Pack
As another good option, a lot of people are bypassing the ESC's BEC all together and either running direct from the battery or from the battery output through an external BEC like this one> 10 amp adjustable BEC
All you have to do to run an external BEC is to remove the red wire from the ESC output plug to the Rx. Then plug the new external BEC into a spare channel and your good to go. If you go with the adjustable version I linked, you can run a much higher output and the difference in servo power will be improved greatly.
I had a problem with my hobbywing SCT XERUN speed control running my 9352-HV servo. Once the battery was half gone, I would loose a lot of my steering and it would feel very mushy until I let off the throttle in the slow sections. But adding a caps seemed to eliminate the problem for me since there is a reserve of juice for burst loads to be drawn from on hard acceleration.
Honestly it's BS in my opinion that these ESC companies can't get it through their heads in this day and time we need stronger BEC output currents for HV servos, or at least an adjustable version.
Here are links to those>
Glitch Buster Rx Cap
Reedy Black Box Motor-Output Cap Pack
As another good option, a lot of people are bypassing the ESC's BEC all together and either running direct from the battery or from the battery output through an external BEC like this one> 10 amp adjustable BEC
All you have to do to run an external BEC is to remove the red wire from the ESC output plug to the Rx. Then plug the new external BEC into a spare channel and your good to go. If you go with the adjustable version I linked, you can run a much higher output and the difference in servo power will be improved greatly.
#1631
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,595
From: Covington, La.
I know your ESC has a bank on it, most of them do, but adding some more never hurts anything and your on-boards could be fried. This would help you know if that is the case. But I agree with you, that should not be happening regardless of what servo your using. Could you explain in more detail whats going on and what they are saying?
It sounds more like your overheating from some sort of heavy resistance, or your hitting the BEC limiter for some off reason.
I had to adjust my HW XERUN to a 3v cutoff to keep it from cutting out way to early. I seen it cut me off with almost 28% still left on the pack.
You might have a lemon.
It sounds more like your overheating from some sort of heavy resistance, or your hitting the BEC limiter for some off reason.
I had to adjust my HW XERUN to a 3v cutoff to keep it from cutting out way to early. I seen it cut me off with almost 28% still left on the pack.
You might have a lemon.
2nd run 3-4 mins in landing a jump and on power it cut out but came back on. (thinking it could have been the switch getting hit I moved some things around and lowered the bec from 7.4-6.0)
3rd run cutout and still retained steering. but lost 99% motor power. (thinking it could be the motor I changed to a new motor and dropped the timing to 0*)
4th run same issue. so I changed sensor wires
5th run again still cutting out so I tried sensorless.
6th-issue still remained so I gave up.
I am going to try a different servo. rewiring everything. glitch buster and changing from deans to xt90 plugs.
The motor was never hotter than 155 and the esc never hotter than 140* fan was always on and still works.
#1632
Also that doesn't make any sense. The whole purpose of an HV servo is to take advantage of just that. A lot of the HV heli guys use an unregulated system upto 8.4v, and none of them use anything less than 7.4 regulated. What is your reasoning behind your claim?
1st run was fine no issues.
2nd run 3-4 mins in landing a jump and on power it cut out but came back on. (thinking it could have been the switch getting hit I moved some things around and lowered the bec from 7.4-6.0)
3rd run cutout and still retained steering. but lost 99% motor power. (thinking it could be the motor I changed to a new motor and dropped the timing to 0*)
4th run same issue. so I changed sensor wires
5th run again still cutting out so I tried sensorless.
6th-issue still remained so I gave up.
I am going to try a different servo. rewiring everything. glitch buster and changing from deans to xt90 plugs.
The motor was never hotter than 155 and the esc never hotter than 140* fan was always on and still works.
2nd run 3-4 mins in landing a jump and on power it cut out but came back on. (thinking it could have been the switch getting hit I moved some things around and lowered the bec from 7.4-6.0)
3rd run cutout and still retained steering. but lost 99% motor power. (thinking it could be the motor I changed to a new motor and dropped the timing to 0*)
4th run same issue. so I changed sensor wires
5th run again still cutting out so I tried sensorless.
6th-issue still remained so I gave up.
I am going to try a different servo. rewiring everything. glitch buster and changing from deans to xt90 plugs.
The motor was never hotter than 155 and the esc never hotter than 140* fan was always on and still works.
The BEC should not allow the servo to drain anything past it's maximum output, which is probably 6v.
I feel like your going to find your problem somewhere else within the solder joints or the ESC circuitry it's self.
A friend of mine had a bad post connection to the main board in his ESC and his cut out similar to what your experiencing.
Keep me posted as to what you find. I feel for ya, cause it's really irritating when stuff like this happens. It's like playing the lottery to get a solid setup these days.
Last edited by Josh L; 07-20-2015 at 08:16 PM.
#1634
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Last edited by Dan.J; 07-21-2015 at 03:08 AM.



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