Xpert Servos
#47
Yes - to the tooth count.
As for the LV. Here is the thing about HV and servos. majority of the time, there really is not a need for that much speed and power from the servo.
We have seen a lot of drivers who are having erratic handling, or very twitchy cars - and they are running HV servos or the voltage turned up. Where slowing down the steering would give them control and make driving easier. The more you can turn with the least amount of slip angle (wheels turned), the more efficient your corner speed will be.
Also, as an example so drivers use LiFe batteries for RX packs in nitro cars, those are a lower voltage, so you don't need the HV servos. Still get quality torque and speed.
As for the LV. Here is the thing about HV and servos. majority of the time, there really is not a need for that much speed and power from the servo.
We have seen a lot of drivers who are having erratic handling, or very twitchy cars - and they are running HV servos or the voltage turned up. Where slowing down the steering would give them control and make driving easier. The more you can turn with the least amount of slip angle (wheels turned), the more efficient your corner speed will be.
Also, as an example so drivers use LiFe batteries for RX packs in nitro cars, those are a lower voltage, so you don't need the HV servos. Still get quality torque and speed.
#49
I recently purchased Xpert RC PI-3431. So far it is overall a great servo but two things I have noticed. There were two instances the servo did not bind. Turned on radio, turned on car, had throttle response but no steering. Turning off and on again solved the issue. I hope it is nothing more than that. And second, with no load after a run. I would slightly touch my steering controller and the servo would rapidly jitter moving about a millimeter both ways, but when I'm on track its smooth as butter. My friend commented that it is a trait digital servos have. Any others experienced these results?
#50
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I recently purchased Xpert RC PI-3431. So far it is overall a great servo but two things I have noticed. There were two instances the servo did not bind. Turned on radio, turned on car, had throttle response but no steering. Turning off and on again solved the issue. I hope it is nothing more than that. And second, with no load after a run. I would slightly touch my steering controller and the servo would rapidly jitter moving about a millimeter both ways, but when I'm on track its smooth as butter. My friend commented that it is a trait digital servos have. Any others experienced these results?
#51
Apologies for not seeing the posts -- don't know how I missed them.
Check and make sure that all the pins are making a solid connection in receiver. It would be on for a unit to not turn on some times unless there was a loose connection. Internally the power wires are not only soldered on the board, they are then epoxy covered to make sure that there is not chance they come off -- or modified in any way.
If you took off the plug to shrink wrap the wire or something also check that the pin is all the way down and locked into the plug. Again to help make sure that connects. Finally, keep an eye on your radio. I have a 4pks and sometimes it goes into C1 mode and my receivers are C2, so I have to turn it off and back on.
Check and make sure that all the pins are making a solid connection in receiver. It would be on for a unit to not turn on some times unless there was a loose connection. Internally the power wires are not only soldered on the board, they are then epoxy covered to make sure that there is not chance they come off -- or modified in any way.
If you took off the plug to shrink wrap the wire or something also check that the pin is all the way down and locked into the plug. Again to help make sure that connects. Finally, keep an eye on your radio. I have a 4pks and sometimes it goes into C1 mode and my receivers are C2, so I have to turn it off and back on.
#52
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Apologies for not seeing the posts -- don't know how I missed them.
Check and make sure that all the pins are making a solid connection in receiver. It would be on for a unit to not turn on some times unless there was a loose connection. Internally the power wires are not only soldered on the board, they are then epoxy covered to make sure that there is not chance they come off -- or modified in any way.
If you took off the plug to shrink wrap the wire or something also check that the pin is all the way down and locked into the plug. Again to help make sure that connects. Finally, keep an eye on your radio. I have a 4pks and sometimes it goes into C1 mode and my receivers are C2, so I have to turn it off and back on.
Check and make sure that all the pins are making a solid connection in receiver. It would be on for a unit to not turn on some times unless there was a loose connection. Internally the power wires are not only soldered on the board, they are then epoxy covered to make sure that there is not chance they come off -- or modified in any way.
If you took off the plug to shrink wrap the wire or something also check that the pin is all the way down and locked into the plug. Again to help make sure that connects. Finally, keep an eye on your radio. I have a 4pks and sometimes it goes into C1 mode and my receivers are C2, so I have to turn it off and back on.
Also On a side note, It also seems that the servo is getting power! on one occasion when it did this, first few times it initially did this, I felt and put my ear up to the servo when it wouldn't operate, I felt/heard a slight hum. I don't remember if I checked to see if the servo had any resistance to move by hand or not! The next time it does it I will check to see if it resists to move.
Last edited by WailinOnYa; 08-29-2014 at 08:23 PM.
#54
First, you guys are certainly open to send them back to be tested. It's strange that it only happens so rarely. If it was a power or processing problem, thought would be it would also happen when unit was being used under load. If it happens again try to notice if the light for your receiver is on and/or speed control is working. To verify you receiver is armed and getting the signal from he transmitter.
#55
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The receiver is deffinately working, because I still have throttle when it does this, just no response from the servo! I ran the car 10 times yesterday, not one single occurance. I'll keep a closer eye on it, when it does it again, I will check for the hum and whether or not the servo resists being moved. I will also keep an eye on whether or not I have to turn the receiver on more than once on different occasions. I am not overly concerned at this point, like izzyracer said earlier, I have also had it initially do this to me as i was heading up to the drivers stand, and of course no steering, so I had to head back down to see what the issue was. Now I just turn the car on and the radio and check to see if it steers right before the race and just turn off the radio and leave the car on. I have another spare servo, same low profile just without the aluminum case, but I am not using this one at this time, thought about swapping them to see if this one does the same thing.
Also one other thing I forgot to notice is whether or not the servo did its Beep, Beep chime sequence when it does this! I don't remember if it did it's audible tone or not, but I will also get in the habit of listening for it when the issue occurs.
Also one other thing I forgot to notice is whether or not the servo did its Beep, Beep chime sequence when it does this! I don't remember if it did it's audible tone or not, but I will also get in the habit of listening for it when the issue occurs.
#56
Its an audible tone when it starts up. Pretty strange that its the one thing that didn't start up, just that one time. Weird, haven't had that happen in 7-8 months of using the 3 I have.
#57
The receiver is deffinately working, because I still have throttle when it does this, just no response from the servo! I ran the car 10 times yesterday, not one single occurance. I'll keep a closer eye on it, when it does it again, I will check for the hum and whether or not the servo resists being moved. I will also keep an eye on whether or not I have to turn the receiver on more than once on different occasions. I am not overly concerned at this point, like izzyracer said earlier, I have also had it initially do this to me as i was heading up to the drivers stand, and of course no steering, so I had to head back down to see what the issue was. Now I just turn the car on and the radio and check to see if it steers right before the race and just turn off the radio and leave the car on. I have another spare servo, same low profile just without the aluminum case, but I am not using this one at this time, thought about swapping them to see if this one does the same thing.
Also one other thing I forgot to notice is whether or not the servo did its Beep, Beep chime sequence when it does this! I don't remember if it did it's audible tone or not, but I will also get in the habit of listening for it when the issue occurs.
Also one other thing I forgot to notice is whether or not the servo did its Beep, Beep chime sequence when it does this! I don't remember if it did it's audible tone or not, but I will also get in the habit of listening for it when the issue occurs.
#59
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hi,
i consider buying si-4431 servo. it has good enough speed and torque. it is cheap and brushless. But, i wanna know warranty duration. Because, i am not living in USA. Also, Any feedback about servos performance would be appretiated.
i consider buying si-4431 servo. it has good enough speed and torque. it is cheap and brushless. But, i wanna know warranty duration. Because, i am not living in USA. Also, Any feedback about servos performance would be appretiated.



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