The AE FActory Team B44.2 Thread
#7531
A setup youd probably like is the maifield setup from last year here at smac trac for the jc indoor nats race. It is very eay to drive and predictable but still has great speed. If your car is still twitchy after putting on this setup something else is the issue.
#7533
Id like to see their setups then.
It can most definitely be a coincedence . Just because they could possibley have a high correlation does not mean that they are directly dependent. Simple statistics. It can be possible that for lots of people their car is incorrectly setup for their track and the first thing many people may think to do is take off the sway bar. So yes a sway bar may solve their issue but just like in the thread 'tuning with roll center', they may be a bandaid.
It can most definitely be a coincedence . Just because they could possibley have a high correlation does not mean that they are directly dependent. Simple statistics. It can be possible that for lots of people their car is incorrectly setup for their track and the first thing many people may think to do is take off the sway bar. So yes a sway bar may solve their issue but just like in the thread 'tuning with roll center', they may be a bandaid.
#7534
Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Houston
A sway bar doesn't give traction. It only takes it away from that end. The reason many setup sheets have them is because they are running a huge spring imbalance front to rear with the front wheel rate much higher than the rear. The sway bar is a bandaid for this imbalance. If you are running a rear sway bar and the back end is washing out, remove it. If it works, it doesn't mean the rest of the setup isn't off though.
#7537
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The fact one is a few mm in front of the other doesnt effect anything?i get one is more inboard then the other. But one is also more forward then the other creating different angles as well. I havent come across any explanation of if thise dynamics have any negative or positive effect either.
#7538
Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Houston
I'm not talking about a springs being balanced in relation to another spring. I'm talking about wheel rates being balanced in relation to front and rear. They aren't the same thing.
#7539
The fact one is a few mm in front of the other doesnt effect anything?i get one is more inboard then the other. But one is also more forward then the other creating different angles as well. I havent come across any explanation of if thise dynamics have any negative or positive effect either.
Being that one is further forward than the other, which means it that the turnbuckle also has to be very slightly longer to get there as well. Even if they were inline but still forward or back means nothing. Other than it will have to be be very slightly longer or shorter to get there.
It's more about being apart for structurally integrity.
#7540
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Joined: Dec 2013
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Good morning to all,
I am a new B44.2 owner, and having a bit of a problem determining what is causing my right front wheel to "hop" up and down when under power while on the stand. The left side does not do this, it maintains the full extension of the shock as expected. Neither of the rear wheels demonstrate this problem, which leads me to believe there is something not right on the right front set up. Any ideas you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I am a new B44.2 owner, and having a bit of a problem determining what is causing my right front wheel to "hop" up and down when under power while on the stand. The left side does not do this, it maintains the full extension of the shock as expected. Neither of the rear wheels demonstrate this problem, which leads me to believe there is something not right on the right front set up. Any ideas you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
#7541
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Good morning to all,
I am a new B44.2 owner, and having a bit of a problem determining what is causing my right front wheel to "hop" up and down when under power while on the stand. The left side does not do this, it maintains the full extension of the shock as expected. Neither of the rear wheels demonstrate this problem, which leads me to believe there is something not right on the right front set up. Any ideas you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I am a new B44.2 owner, and having a bit of a problem determining what is causing my right front wheel to "hop" up and down when under power while on the stand. The left side does not do this, it maintains the full extension of the shock as expected. Neither of the rear wheels demonstrate this problem, which leads me to believe there is something not right on the right front set up. Any ideas you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
#7542
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No.
Being that one is further forward than the other, which means it that the turnbuckle also has to be very slightly longer to get there as well. Even if they were inline but still forward or back means nothing. Other than it will have to be be very slightly longer or shorter to get there.
It's more about being apart for structurally integrity.
Being that one is further forward than the other, which means it that the turnbuckle also has to be very slightly longer to get there as well. Even if they were inline but still forward or back means nothing. Other than it will have to be be very slightly longer or shorter to get there.
It's more about being apart for structurally integrity.
#7543
Really doesnt matter, id rather be helping people try to figure out their car. Sorry to start this with you fred
#7544
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Joined: Dec 2013
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I had that happen when the lower clip deteriorated underneath the shock piston. Shock acted as if it had no fluid in it because the piston wasnt moving. Its definitely a shock issue. Take it apart and examine. Rebuild it and bleed air out. Should be good to go after that
#7545
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From: Norway
Good morning to all,
I am a new B44.2 owner, and having a bit of a problem determining what is causing my right front wheel to "hop" up and down when under power while on the stand. The left side does not do this, it maintains the full extension of the shock as expected. Neither of the rear wheels demonstrate this problem, which leads me to believe there is something not right on the right front set up. Any ideas you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I am a new B44.2 owner, and having a bit of a problem determining what is causing my right front wheel to "hop" up and down when under power while on the stand. The left side does not do this, it maintains the full extension of the shock as expected. Neither of the rear wheels demonstrate this problem, which leads me to believe there is something not right on the right front set up. Any ideas you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!



