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Old 09-09-2013 | 07:15 AM
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add some weight up front. Some people run 14 grams under the rack or on top of the servo.
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Old 09-09-2013 | 07:22 AM
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Thanks guys...I really wish I had this figured out 6 weeks ago...I really thought I had the B4 coming around and then thought I could take it to the next level with the traction compound. Total mistake it seems. Now there's basically one outdoor race left for me for the season and it isn't a points race. Then I head indoors to play with Bob and the rest of the gang at Bumps and Jumps.
Only stuff you need in your box at Bumps is Trinity Yellow Dot. That stuff is nuts. Although I'm fairly certain I killed a large number of brain cells just from the smell.
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Old 09-09-2013 | 07:31 AM
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So since we are talking about sauce. Is it possible to tune your car to be just as good without sauce? I go to a track that folks are saucing and it is just a PITA and I hate doing it. Just curious with tire choice and set up if you could get your car handling just as well without saucing.
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Old 09-09-2013 | 08:07 AM
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i only sauce when the tires are brand new first run, and then only when they become almost worn out or slicks. for my track... a good sweep is truly the key for traction in most cases (not always). a lot of guys spend time scaucing and complaining about poor traction, when the track has only been swept once earier in the day...
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Old 09-09-2013 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ryanpatrickgore
i only sauce when the tires are brand new first run, and then only when they become almost worn out or slicks. for my track... a good sweep is truly the key for traction in most cases (not always). a lot of guys spend time scaucing and complaining about poor traction, when the track has only been swept once earier in the day...
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Sweeping is good for traction & sauce is good for more traction & steering ....

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If the others are all using sause you will also have to use ...

No way to tune around and not use if you wish to be on pace .

The brand sause you choose can also make a difference in grip & performance .

Use the same brand as the the others for the best performance .
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Old 09-09-2013 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by goin2drt
So since we are talking about sauce. Is it possible to tune your car to be just as good without sauce? I go to a track that folks are saucing and it is just a PITA and I hate doing it. Just curious with tire choice and set up if you could get your car handling just as well without saucing.
you SHOULD tune your car so it works without sauce. I hate putting stuff on my tires but one of the guys at the track he is referring to put it on my tires and I was half a second a lap faster. Did a blind test too just to make sure it wasn't in my head and it wasn't. On that track, that yellow dot stuff is ridiculous.



Now if they made Zip Free again... I would switch to that in a heart beat!
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Old 09-09-2013 | 08:25 AM
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I sauce the foam on my radio steering. It gives me the grip I need in the tight turns and makes me a winner.
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Old 09-09-2013 | 08:30 AM
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lol you made my day
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Old 09-09-2013 | 08:31 AM
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yeah, sauce is like tire selection. Its something you ask the local fast guys about. There are many local brews that are custom maid for the local tracks. I have heard of "hog snot" somewhere on the east coast, BK sauce here in arizona and a few others as well. But the sauce you use can effect different tire compound differently. If you can get a local to let you borrow their sauce and take a few laps, you can decide for yourself if you want to use it/buy it. Since BK sauce is big here, I might try it out next time I hit up the local indoor track.
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Old 09-09-2013 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by D.Martijn
How can I get more on power steering without out loosing too much rear grip and also off power steering..

any suggestions?
Here is an excellent tuning guide explaining how different changes in setup affect cars handling. I always refer to this when I need to change something to get better results.
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/associa...SetupHints.htm
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Old 09-09-2013 | 09:05 AM
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Saucing the tires makes a difference in handling the same way the right tires do. If your set up sucks, sauce doesn't help. If you have the wrong tires, sauce doesn't help. If you wreck a lot, sauce doesn't help. If you have a good setup, the right tires, & will be a solid 2nd or 3rd place with only 1-2 bobbles in the a-main, sauce can help get you another position or 2.

I stated it doesn't help in certain situations, that is incorrect. It does help, but it does not come close to making up for something lacking in another area.
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Old 09-09-2013 | 09:48 AM
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Sauce is a tricky topic. Here in Florida, we have some indoor tracks that require no sauce and outdoor tracks that do. All depends on the track prep and weather conditions.

For outdoor, a common "sauce" is to just use motor spray. Just be aware that this softens the tire and will increase wear. This also works to open the pores of the tire before applying another additive.

A few of the indoor tracks here have gotten to the point where slicks and variants of WD40, diesel, and other petroleum products have become the ticket. Ask around your local track and someone is bound to point you in the right direction.
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Old 09-09-2013 | 10:44 AM
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more pics. have fun...









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Old 09-09-2013 | 10:50 AM
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Been experimenting with pistons ..


What I have learned from the effort ...

#1 Do not mix flat pistons with shaped versions . Use one or the other on all four shocks ..
#2 1.6 flat pistons are great for med to low grip
#3 1.7 flat piston great for med high traction
#4 3 x 1.4 machine pistons are great for med high grip
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Old 09-09-2013 | 10:53 AM
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does anybody know the weight of the factory team aluminum bell cranks?
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