4LikesTeam Associated B4.2 Thread
05-02-2013 | 08:33 AM
#4711
That's funny, not sure if anyone else picked it up. Several months ago I purchased some AE tierods from the LHS and had exactly the same machining problem.... or lack of machining you could say. I sent AE an email and they sent me out a replacement set quickly.
05-02-2013 | 08:41 AM
#4712
Tech Legend
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 22,595
From: TRCR Modified Driver
I asked for your explanation the very first time I quoted your statement...I asked again 3 other times as well. So for the 5th time, how exactly does the slipper effect OFF power STEERING.
I understand your extremely generalized statement of "racers with handling issues have their slipper locked" and I agree that a locked slipper creates issues....but we are talking about 1 very specific situation during a turn. Off power traction while turning. Off power means NO THROTTLE. the slipper only functions when the motor is accelerating, or decelerating, UNDER POWER. (the motor is the driving force that makes the slipper function in the first place...hence being connected to the motor via pinion/spur) when the motor is in a neutral state (freewheeling) and the car is rolling (off power turning) then the motor is not inducing any resistance to make the slipper slip.
So again, explain to me how the slipper effects OFF-power turning?
I understand your extremely generalized statement of "racers with handling issues have their slipper locked" and I agree that a locked slipper creates issues....but we are talking about 1 very specific situation during a turn. Off power traction while turning. Off power means NO THROTTLE. the slipper only functions when the motor is accelerating, or decelerating, UNDER POWER. (the motor is the driving force that makes the slipper function in the first place...hence being connected to the motor via pinion/spur) when the motor is in a neutral state (freewheeling) and the car is rolling (off power turning) then the motor is not inducing any resistance to make the slipper slip.
So again, explain to me how the slipper effects OFF-power turning?
Your claiming & posted there no way the slipper affects off power .
Incorrect
Its slips both ways, not just forward.
Going into the turn can lock the slipper and the car can become darty and steer more into the turns.
Loosen slipper and the car will be much smoother entering the turns.
Landing off jumps are also effected.
A tight slipper can make the car slide out on hard landings,not mention the extra wear & tear on the drivetrain.
Loosen the slipper and landings will become smoother ,more planted.
Does this answer your question?
I can show you even more how the slipper affects off power if interested.
Last edited by Wild Cherry; 05-02-2013 at 08:58 AM.
05-02-2013 | 08:58 AM
#4714
Your claiming & posted there no way the skipper affects off power .
Incorrect
Its slips both ways, not just forward.
Going into the turn can lock the slipper and the car can become darty and steer more into the turns.
Loosen slipper and the car will be much smoother entering the turns.
Landing off jumps are also effected.
A tight slipper can make the car slide out on hard landings,not mention the extra wear & tear on the drivetrain.
Loosen the slipper and landings will become smoother ,more planted.
Does this answer your question?
I can show you even more how the slipper affects off power if interested.
Incorrect
Its slips both ways, not just forward.
Going into the turn can lock the slipper and the car can become darty and steer more into the turns.
Loosen slipper and the car will be much smoother entering the turns.
Landing off jumps are also effected.
A tight slipper can make the car slide out on hard landings,not mention the extra wear & tear on the drivetrain.
Loosen the slipper and landings will become smoother ,more planted.
Does this answer your question?
I can show you even more how the slipper affects off power if interested.
In any case, drag brake or trail braking should never be hard enough to make the slipper slip. And if you are braking so hard going into a turn that causes the slipper to slip then you have way too much brake, your slowing down too much going into the turn, or you may be loosing braking traction, all of which are bad and will likely cause you to spin out when driving a 2wd buggy, and in no way should the slipper be the first thing you think about adjusting.
Just stop it if you think the "winning" method of getting better off power steering from mid to exit corner is by possibly adjusting your slipper.
05-02-2013 | 09:07 AM
#4716
Tech Master
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Posts: 1,412
Your claiming & posted there no way the slipper affects off power .
Incorrect
Its slips both ways, not just forward.
Going into the turn can lock the slipper and the car can become darty and steer more into the turns.
Loosen slipper and the car will be much smoother entering the turns.
Landing off jumps are also effected.
A tight slipper can make the car slide out on hard landings,not mention the extra wear & tear on the drivetrain.
Loosen the slipper and landings will become smoother ,more planted.
Does this answer your question?
I can show you even more how the slipper affects off power if interested.
Incorrect
Its slips both ways, not just forward.
Going into the turn can lock the slipper and the car can become darty and steer more into the turns.
Loosen slipper and the car will be much smoother entering the turns.
Landing off jumps are also effected.
A tight slipper can make the car slide out on hard landings,not mention the extra wear & tear on the drivetrain.
Loosen the slipper and landings will become smoother ,more planted.
Does this answer your question?
I can show you even more how the slipper affects off power if interested.
05-02-2013 | 09:15 AM
#4717
WC is wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. No one runs the slipper loose enough to slip on corner entry. Even on a super high bite with a 2 turn motor going full speed, I doubt the slipper would slip on full brake. In racing conditions you will never slip a slipper slowing for a corner. There is just not enough force being put on it. For one when you slow for a corner, weight is being taken off the rear wheels which even further reduces the forces on the slipper. This is truly the most brain dead thing Cherry has ever said. If this were a 4x4 and were were talking about a center diff, then this would be a conversation. But he is simply off his meds.
05-02-2013 | 09:30 AM
#4719
I think we need BK to give us a definitive answer.
When you get the SC10 4x4 guys that vid you promised WC about the +8mm mod and how it works from BK, make sure and ask about the whole slipper thing too.
When you get the SC10 4x4 guys that vid you promised WC about the +8mm mod and how it works from BK, make sure and ask about the whole slipper thing too.
05-02-2013 | 09:37 AM
#4720
Tech Legend
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 22,595
From: TRCR Modified Driver
Chev
The off power effects the slipper has is most noticeable on higher traction conditions.
When grip comes up so will steering, tight slipper can make the car darty and difficult to drive.
lCan just tighten my slipper a extra turn and my lap total can turn up a lap short.
Have learned how important the slipper effects a correctly set up ride, can become a game changer sometimes.
talkN bout way out there
just a tip to adjust a slipper and it becomes the main topic.
Oman !
Who would of knew...lol
The off power effects the slipper has is most noticeable on higher traction conditions.
When grip comes up so will steering, tight slipper can make the car darty and difficult to drive.
lCan just tighten my slipper a extra turn and my lap total can turn up a lap short.
Have learned how important the slipper effects a correctly set up ride, can become a game changer sometimes.
talkN bout way out there
just a tip to adjust a slipper and it becomes the main topic.
Oman !
Who would of knew...lol
05-02-2013 | 10:19 AM
#4722
Anyone have a good wrench solution for the front shock nuts? Can't really go my regular nut driver in there to take the nuts off. Someting small to fit in their and still be able to turn the nut would be great.
05-02-2013 | 10:23 AM
#4723
the kit wrench. its plastic but work well
its the one in the bottom right of this pic.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Team-Associa...item20cf9ef1d4
its the one in the bottom right of this pic.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Team-Associa...item20cf9ef1d4
05-02-2013 | 10:26 AM
#4725
the kit wrench. its plastic but work well
its the one in the bottom right of this pic.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Team-Associa...item20cf9ef1d4
its the one in the bottom right of this pic.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Team-Associa...item20cf9ef1d4