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Old 04-21-2013 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dont Hack Me
Post 5762 is a really good starting point, that guy helped me set up my buggy and I was very please. I differed a small bit, but pretty much the same
It's a very good starting point for high and low bite for Ohio/PA dirt tracks. I don't claim for it to be perfect just a more neutral starting point. I race at a lot of different style tracks in our area from slicks to loose with full pins, and I get to race with good group of decent drivers. No one I race with on a club level is going to win the nats but for example there were Serpent, Losi, and Durango sponsored drivers at the club race I went to today so your stuff has to at least be decent or you’re going to get smoked.

I am going to change the rear spring on that starting sheet to reds instead of yellows, but it was originally intended to hand out to guys just getting the buggy who didn’t have many, or any, other spring options.
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Old 04-21-2013 | 07:38 PM
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Our e-buggy class has had a really good turnout this year. For the past 2 weekends there have been 2 full heats of em'. And that's a lot considering there were about 40-50 people racing that night. And on another note, e-truggy is starting to have some presence as well. Had about 5 out there as well. Hope tekno decides to offer an e-truggy. The new serpent e-truggy needs some competition!
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Old 04-21-2013 | 08:00 PM
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Ran the first outdoor local club race at Fastlane Raceway in Blue Springs, MO on Saturday with my EB48. Track is super smooth, ultra hard-pack, with dust on top. It has medium to large jumps and good rythm sections, with a couple long straights.
I ran the basic "Door" setup with a few mods. I shortened the wheelbase by 1 mm. Tekno yellow springs on the rear and Tekno green springs on the front. Lowered the rear camber link on the tower 1 hole. AKA I-beams V1 all around. I won 2 out of 3 heats, TQ, and the main.
This my first race on this buggy and I was very impressed with how well it jumped and how nimble it was in the turns without any traction roll issues. Durability is awesome. I was worried about screws coming loose without running the mid and center braces. Checked them several times and not one loose. Very happy with the EB48.
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Old 04-21-2013 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by doc danger
Ran the first outdoor local club race at Fastlane Raceway in Blue Springs, MO on Saturday with my EB48. Track is super smooth, ultra hard-pack, with dust on top. It has medium to large jumps and good rythm sections, with a couple long straights.
I ran the basic "Door" setup with a few mods. I shortened the wheelbase by 1 mm. Tekno yellow springs on the rear and Tekno green springs on the front. Lowered the rear camber link on the tower 1 hole. AKA I-beams V1 all around. I won 2 out of 3 heats, TQ, and the main.
This my first race on this buggy and I was very impressed with how well it jumped and how nimble it was in the turns without any traction roll issues. Durability is awesome. I was worried about screws coming loose without running the mid and center braces. Checked them several times and not one loose. Very happy with the EB48.
You definitely wheeled the heck out of it. Congrats! Car looked great. Hope this is a sign of the season to come. I bet your not missing the AE judging from your lap times..... WAY FASTER with the Tekno. The racing is going to be tight.
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Old 04-21-2013 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sstoffer
It's a very good starting point for high and low bite for Ohio/PA dirt tracks. I don't claim for it to be perfect just a more neutral starting point. I race at a lot of different style tracks in our area from slicks to loose with full pins, and I get to race with good group of decent drivers. No one I race with on a club level is going to win the nats but for example there were Serpent, Losi, and Durango sponsored drivers at the club race I went to today so your stuff has to at least be decent or you’re going to get smoked.

I am going to change the rear spring on that starting sheet to reds instead of yellows, but it was originally intended to hand out to guys just getting the buggy who didn’t have many, or any, other spring options.
i know your buggy was definitly hooked up today. you guys had one hell of a race, it was fun to watch.
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Old 04-21-2013 | 09:41 PM
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Question about 12mins main:

After 12 mins, I charged 4250mah into my battery, 250mah more than justpoet's probably because I had a few more practice laps than him, before the race start.
Power setup is RX8 + 1900kv T8, with 17t pinion.
The ESC temperature was pretty cool at around 135F, but the motor temperature went up to 180F.

SO, will adding RX8's current limit increase the ESC's temperature?
Because the last time I used 80% current limit (w/ 18t pinion), the motor dropped 20F to 150F, though the ESC was still 170F.
(Turned that off and dropped a pinion gear and got ESC 130F, Motor 150F after 8 mins main).

Really enjoyed 12mins main, but not sure whether 15mins main will eat up the whole 5200mah and damage the battery pack?

*fastest lap happened in the end of 12mins main...what's wrong with me...
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Old 04-21-2013 | 11:05 PM
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Being new to this and all I didn't notice the Amp rating of the various ESC's unless they were part of the name, ie, the Hobbywing 150A one. That, and I wasn't aware what that meant really, only that in certain ways 150 was better than 120, not just "a bigger number".

Going from a Mamba Monster in my Vorza to the Viper VTX8 was a learning experience with some batteries killed.

Looking into it the Monster is 120A, the VTX8 is 220A and looking into the RX8 just now it's rated at 210A, so it's close to the Viper.

A lot of folks run the RX8 so I'm wondering what battery brand and spec you guys are running, or would recommend for 7 min mains?

I had bought some Nano-tech's, 65-130C in 3300 and 5000 mah.

I have killed one of the 3300's, Cell 1 at zero, not sure if it's too small for 7 min racing.
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Old 04-22-2013 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nicholasxuu
Question about 12mins main:

After 12 mins, I charged 4250mah into my battery, 250mah more than justpoet's probably because I had a few more practice laps than him, before the race start.
Power setup is RX8 + 1900kv T8, with 17t pinion.
The ESC temperature was pretty cool at around 135F, but the motor temperature went up to 180F.

SO, will adding RX8's current limit increase the ESC's temperature?
Because the last time I used 80% current limit (w/ 18t pinion), the motor dropped 20F to 150F, though the ESC was still 170F.
(Turned that off and dropped a pinion gear and got ESC 130F, Motor 150F after 8 mins main).

Really enjoyed 12mins main, but not sure whether 15mins main will eat up the whole 5200mah and damage the battery pack?

*fastest lap happened in the end of 12mins main...what's wrong with me...
using what you reported as mah usage over a given time frame, it looks like you are using about 333.33 mah per min assuming 4000mah put in over a 12 minute main.

That said, assuming 15 minute main, you would use about 5000mah. Cutting it too close to me at least.

Personally, on 4S I would look into a battery in the 6000mah range for a guarenteed 15 minutes of runtime. This is what I did back when I started 1/8 electric with the old Neu motors and a *high* C rating pack at the time, 6000mah 25C lol.

I think that is why 10 minute mains have become as popular as they are for this class. You don't need really pig sized packs to make 10 minutes.

If you track is not really anal on 1/8 E weight, you can also look into going with a lighter weight motor and battery combo setup. Will make it more nimble and not need as much mah to push it around the track.

Anyone here using 2K rear diff weight versus the common 3K? If so, how are you liking it and the conditions you use it on? Leaning towards setting my rear diff to this on my rebuild after liking it this past saturday.
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Old 04-22-2013 | 07:36 AM
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Hello my name is Tom I have been out of the RC racing game for 10 or 15 years I just bought an EB 48 and finish putting it together I live in Chicago Illinois area and would like to start racing or at least practicing at leisure hours hobby in Joliet does anybody with an EB 48 race at leisure our hobbies if so Would you mind helping me out And learn the ropes of RC racing again thanks in advance tom
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Old 04-22-2013 | 08:34 AM
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Do the +2 or +1 mm hubs put this buggy beyond legal limits? I also worry putting the wheels farther out would put more strain on the hub bearings.
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Old 04-22-2013 | 08:56 AM
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I've said it once and I'll say it again.... I LOVE THIS BUGGY!!!
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Old 04-22-2013 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Snakeman00711
Hello my name is Tom I have been out of the RC racing game for 10 or 15 years I just bought an EB 48 and finish putting it together I live in Chicago Illinois area and would like to start racing or at least practicing at leisure hours hobby in Joliet does anybody with an EB 48 race at leisure our hobbies if so Would you mind helping me out And learn the ropes of RC racing again thanks in advance tom
I race there on occasion and would be happy to help you out, but probably wont be there for a few weeks. Honestly you don't need to worry about it. If its been a while I would recommend showing up on a practice day or 2 just to get the feel for driving again. All of the folks at LH are very helpful. Just stop in the hobby shop on your way in and let them know you are new and they will give you the basic info you need. Ask questions of anyone who you think looks like they know what they are doing. Just about everyone is friendly and willing to help the rookies learn.

The racing format really hasnt changed since you raced but the race lengths have gotten a little longer for the electric classes.

If you plan to run indoors get yourself a set of Panther clay slicks (scuffed up with a sanding drum on a dremmel) and a set of gold barcodes or clay Panther rattlers for tires. That will cover 99% of indoor track conditions. They are changing the dirt mix up a bit on the outdoor track this spring so I cant give you any good info there yet. It hasn't opened yet but usually does sometime early/mid May.

Also, if you are planning to race regularly, do yourself a favor and grab a personal transponder. They still use the older style AMB lap timing equipment so if you get one of the newer style MyLaps transponders make sure you get the Hybrid version and not the pure RC4. Also, any of the older style AMB or MRT still work fine.

My number one recommendation... If it has been 15 years then you are going to be shocked by the power of the electric cars vs 15 years ago. Start off slow, keep the throttle EPA set low and increase as you feel you can handle it on the track. Learning to drive again with one of these 1/8 ebuggies can be flat out dangerous if you are not careful. 7lb + car doing 40+mph on the indoor track can do some damage. There are some guys who show up with their cars so overpowered that they cant even control them and it just makes others mad.

Have fun, yer gonna love this buggy.
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Old 04-22-2013 | 09:51 AM
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Can anyone Comparr this car to the rc8.2 (u owned the both) ? I have one but really like the look of the EB48.
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Old 04-22-2013 | 10:02 AM
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Can anyone Comparr this car to the rc8.2 (u owned the both) ? I have one but really like the look of the EB48.
I read somewhere back in the day that the tekno rc8 was teknos favorite chassis...and if you look close at the 2 cars there is a lot of similarities....that being said the eb48 will instantly give you better times than the rc8.2.....mine did
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Old 04-22-2013 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jlfx car audio
Can anyone Comparr this car to the rc8.2 (u owned the both) ? I have one but really like the look of the EB48.
I ran a RC8.2e last year...between the screws and bushing consistently falling out of the steering blocks (granted, they have upgraded their steering blocks since then) and never having any rear traction, I was so frustrated that I considered dumping this class...over the winter I saw the EB48 (built from the ground up as an electric buggy, what a concept!) saw all the positive reviews, and made the switch...never looking back.

Last year I was consistently B or C main material...this year with the EB48 I've been up with the big boys in the A.

If you go Tekno, you won't be disappointed.

That is just my 2 cents...
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