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Old 03-03-2013 | 07:49 AM
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What things can I do to get more onpower steering? Thanks
You could remove front ball stud washers. How many mm are you running up front?
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Old 03-03-2013 | 07:52 AM
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mike, thank you for your fast answere

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Old 03-03-2013 | 08:29 AM
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Interesting YankeeFan, I would not have thought that removing front ball stud washers (hence raising the roll center and resisting chassis roll) would give you more on power steering. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not a tuning expert by any means. I would have thought that would have given you more off power steering but as the weight continues forward and the front resists the roll, the outside tire would start to slip and you would ultimately lose grip. Correct me if I'm wrong. My first thought would have been increasing anti-squat or increasing limiters (decreasing droop and decreasing weight transfer to the rear under acceleration) in the front. What does everyone think?
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Old 03-03-2013 | 08:36 AM
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i think you need to play with settings for the right feel. I started with cavs base setup and raz's shock package and ended up where I did. I dont think anyone here is running the shorty all the way back, but I am and I like it. you just have to try things. I feel like tires are huge for the on/off power steering. I was using the tires everyone else was and hated, so I just started run every tires in my box till I found what I wanted. I wanted my rear to drift a little in the corners then square up under power. I finally got what I wanted out of my car, now to work on my driving.
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Old 03-03-2013 | 08:38 AM
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+1 to that. My setups are usually not like others. Then again, I seldom win.... mwhahahahahahha
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Old 03-03-2013 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mihaelbencek
hi b4.2 owner.

please, can you weight your b4.2 cars?

i am thinking aboout switching from my fully tuned dex210 to the b4.2


thank you

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I weighed mine last night at the track. It was 3.79lbs. THat is with full stick pack and ready to race.
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Old 03-03-2013 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bds81175
Interesting YankeeFan, I would not have thought that removing front ball stud washers (hence raising the roll center and resisting chassis roll) would give you more on power steering. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not a tuning expert by any means. I would have thought that would have given you more off power steering but as the weight continues forward and the front resists the roll, the outside tire would start to slip and you would ultimately lose grip. Correct me if I'm wrong. My first thought would have been increasing anti-squat or increasing limiters (decreasing droop and decreasing weight transfer to the rear under acceleration) in the front. What does everyone think?
I could very well be wrong, it's just that my car couldn't turn out of the sweeper to save my life. I was told to try removing front ball stud washers and that helped. It might just be the fact that I was told it would help, but I could personally feel my car turn much sharper.
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Old 03-03-2013 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by YankeeFan123
I could very well be wrong, it's just that my car couldn't turn out of the sweeper to save my life. I was told to try removing front ball stud washers and that helped. It might just be the fact that I was told it would help, but I could personally feel my car turn much sharper.
When my ride feels like that ?
All I do is use tire sauce and the high speed steering comes back .
When ever I run the tires dry ? Car has a big push in sweepers ...
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Old 03-03-2013 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
When my ride feels like that ?
All I do is use tire sauce and the high speed steering comes back .
When ever I run the tires dry ? Car has a big push in sweepers ...
The main track that I go to, WCRC, doesn't allow tire sauce.
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Old 03-03-2013 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by YankeeFan123
The main track that I go to, WCRC, doesn't allow tire sauce.
Advise to sauce your tires and place in a bag overnight and use ...
This is how most do at track's with a no sauce rule ...
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Old 03-03-2013 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Advise to sauce your tires and place in a bag overnight and use ...
This is how most do at track's with a no sauce rule ...
Doesn't that wear out the tires at a much more rapid pace?
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Old 03-03-2013 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by YankeeFan123
Doesn't that wear out the tires at a much more rapid pace?
Yep
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Old 03-03-2013 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by micrors4guy
Yep
That's why even at OCRC I don't like saucing my tires since I don't have a large supply of tires
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Old 03-03-2013 | 12:37 PM
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WCRC's clay is really good and saucing im not sure is beneficial. Maybe something very mild that would't compromise the tire much but then again you may end up with too much grip and traction roll lol and im not gonna advise or even recommend sauce at wcrc. I wish my home track had clay like theirs
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Old 03-03-2013 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by YankeeFan123
Doesn't that wear out the tires at a much more rapid pace?
Same wear & tear as if you were using sauce anyway..

My experience is when ever I have raced at facilities that ban traction compounds, most bag their tires overnight.

Just coat the tires as normal the bag keeps the tire soft by slowing down the time for it to dry out.
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Keep a 2nd even a 3rd set in separate bag & use fresh tires each round..
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