Transponder Design
#91
Have you physically inspected any of the genuine AMB transponder internals? They do it with a single PIC microcontroller. The FCC docs have internal pics. I'd have provided direct links, but the forums want some undisclosed post count achieved before I can post URLS.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repor...id='NXYRC3'
I searched the FCC site for the number printed on the old transponders, "NXYAMBGP2", but came up with nothing.
If you send me the links for the photos of the older AMB transponder via PM, I'll post them.
P.S. That's a lot of parts in the RC4!
#93
Looking at the FCC data, it appears that they're using the standard 7 digit numbers they've always used. However, looking at the internal photos, and the new microcontroller, I'm guessing that the packet payload was significantly changed. It won't be easy to duplicate...
#94
Thanks for the links. Here's the link for the devices marked "NXYAMBGP2":
http://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/report...'NXYAMBGP2'
There's a whole lot of extra active devices in this one too, other than the PIC microprocessor.
EDIT: It looks like a 5 MHz resonator or crystal, so there's no way the PIC12C671 is generating the carrier by twiddling its pins.
Last edited by howardcano; 01-24-2013 at 07:12 PM.
#96
#98
Here's a quick update on the code compression. I've done 20 numbers so far, and it definitely looks like the PIC12F683 will hold at least 32.
For the moment, I'll simply step to the next selection when the jumper block is present on power-up.
For the moment, I'll simply step to the next selection when the jumper block is present on power-up.
#99
My own efforts at hand-soldering surface mount components are quite entertaining! That's the reason I'm using through-hole components on this design, at least for the moment. My last RC project, a dynamic timing module for use with ESCs that don't have the feature, was surface-mount, and it was a real challenge for my shaky hands.
You are probably looking at a prototype; these are usually hand-soldered. The only thing that would be hand-soldered on production units would be the power wires.
You are probably looking at a prototype; these are usually hand-soldered. The only thing that would be hand-soldered on production units would be the power wires.
Last edited by howardcano; 01-27-2013 at 08:30 AM. Reason: Corrected "shakey" to "shaky".
#101
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I might be able to talk my way into some time in an area setup for vector network analysis, where I know they have a very nice spectrum analyser.
Last edited by freexray; 01-25-2013 at 06:46 AM. Reason: typo
#102
My own efforts at hand-soldering surface mount components are quite entertaining! That's the reason I'm using through-hole components on this design, at least for the moment. My last RC project, a dynamic timing module for use with ESCs that don't have the feature, was surface-mount, and it was a real challenge for my shakey hands.
You are probably looking at a prototype; these are usually hand-soldered. The only thing that would be hand-soldered on production units would be the power wires.
You are probably looking at a prototype; these are usually hand-soldered. The only thing that would be hand-soldered on production units would be the power wires.
There's nothing like soldering LEDs/resistors 2x the size of salt under a 10x microscope

I could do better on that AMD freehand without any magnification...

I repaired this not to long ago...
This is a $7k mixer/recorder that someone plugged into 48v(18v rated) and left it fry
more pics
http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/j...und%20devices/
#103
At higher frequencies, even short conductors become excellent antennae!
#105
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Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 109
My earliest posts showed a strong second harmonic component in the output field of the older AMB transponder, most likely due to driving the tank single-ended. The RC4 probably also uses a single-ended drive. This would give plenty of even-order harmonics.
At higher frequencies, even short conductors become excellent antennae!
At higher frequencies, even short conductors become excellent antennae!
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